[Shotimes] OT- (computer stuf)

Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:47 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

Paul,  Large companies like AT&T, IBM and Motorola all require that you
run an antivirus program and take the time to insure that all critical M$
patches are installed on company workstations.  Running this stuff is
practically a condition of employment.  This is a very practical matter. 
I extend this practice to all 8 of my home computers to protect the
network.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
1992 Ultra Red Crimson

Paul Nimz said:
> I'm telling you what I do and what I think of the AV industry.  I am not
> telling anyone what to do.  I will leave that up to you and Ron.
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR
> '93 EG mtx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> To: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
> Cc: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>; "`V6 SHOtimes"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: OT- (computer stuf)
>
>
>> Reactive in the case of brand new virus, proactive in case of virus for
>> which a def was created.
>>
>> Look, you wanna run without an AV program, that's your business, but
>> don't
>> go telling others not to.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Carl Prochilo
>> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>>
>> Paul Nimz said:
>> > Well you did say that AV products are reactive.....
>> >
>> > I would rather be proactive.     Huh?
>> >
>> > Paul Nimz
>> > '97 TR
>> > '93 EG mtx
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>> > To: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
>> > Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:35 AM
>> > Subject: Re: OT- (computer stuf)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Huh?  Isn't that what I said?  I don't see not running an antivirus
>> >> program as an option.  NAV has a realtime protection mechanism.
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Carl Prochilo
>> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>> >>
>> >> Paul Nimz said:
>> >> > Personally I would rather spend my time and money preventing virus
>> >> > problems
>> >> > than fixing them.  Why rely on products that fix your sick computer
> if
>> > you
>> >> > can take measures and not become infected in the first place?
>> >> >
>> >> > Paul Nimz
>> >> > '97 TR
>> >> > '93 EG mtx
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>> >> > To: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
>> >> > Cc: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:49 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jim,  Ron gave you a good way to look at this.  NAV being owned by
>> >> >> Symantec has a very good support structure.  That's what you
>> really
>> > want
>> >> >> to look for.  The whole virus world is reactive in nature and you
>> >> can't
>> >> >> really stop this stuff before it happens, but when it does, you
>> want
>> >> >> someone there to code a def file so that you can protect your
>> sytem.
>> > So
>> >> >> for all intents and purposes, these programs (McAfee, etc) to me
>> are
>> >> >> fairly equal but are an absolute necessity in today's world.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As for LINUX, I know a lot of people that swear by it and really
>> no
>> >> one
>> >> >> that swears at it.  But its use is going to limited in my view to
>> > server
>> >> >> based work at this point and not as a replacement for the Windows
>> >> >> client.
>> >> >> For instance, a buddy of mine has a LINUX box in his house that is
>> >> used
>> >> >> for file and web serving that he does virtually no maintenance to.
>> >> But
>> >> >> client apps are pretty much all written for Windoze because it is
>> >> >> ubiquitous.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you follow the type of approach I outlined earlier to protect
> your
>> >> >> PC,
>> >> >> that is a good model to insure no issues will befall you.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Carl Prochilo
>> >> >> 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> James White said:
>> >> >> > I have always thought that anything MicroSoft was all anchor and
>> >> >> bloat!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The old Atari did a lot with only 1/100 of the memory and wabout
>> >> >> 1/1000
>> >> > of
>> >> >> > the disk storage space.  Old dos (not even Windows) was sorta'
>> OK.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Was happy with non-Windows dos, but they fixed what wasn't
>> >> broken...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is Linux any better?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Or maybe they "fixed" that too?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: "Paul Nimz" <niks@dialnetwork.com>
>> >> >> > To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>; "Midwest SHO
>> >> >> > Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> >> > Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>;
>> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:37 AM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> NA isn't anything but an anchor and bloat.  IMHO
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Paul Nimz
>> >> >> >> '97 TR
>> >> >> >> '93 EG mtx
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>> >> >> >> To: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>;
>> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:39 PM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Yes, those are good, but you also need something like Norton
>> >> > Antivirus
>> >> >> >> > too.  What I normally have on my machines are:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hardware Router (Linksys, Netgear, etc)
>> >> >> >> > Norton Antivirus
>> >> >> >> > Zone Alarm Pro (actually Zone Labs Integrity Client)
>> >> >> >> > Adaware
>> >> >> >> > Spybot
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > These together seem reasonably good at securing a machine.
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> >> > Carl Prochilo
>> >> >> >> > 1992 Ultra Red Crimson
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Midwest SHO Specialists said:
>> >> >> >> > > I run Ad Aware and Zone alarm.  Neither stop spam email,
>> but
>> > they
>> >> > do
>> >> >> >> block
>> >> >> >> > > pop ups.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > ~ Mike
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> > > From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
>> >> >> >> > > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:07 PM
>> >> >> >> > > Subject: [Shotimes] OT (computer stuf)
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> Didn't think that this was Spam..., but speaking of Spam,
>> I
>> >> got
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> program
>> >> >> >> > >> from a friend/customer called SpyBot.  Think that it
> prevents
>> >> >> >> > >> information
>> >> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> >> > >> me from being sent out about me, and this will, maybe,
> reduce
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > Spam.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Is it worth the time to run it?
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> And time is what I don't have.  The '95MTX SHO still has
>> the
>> >> >> idle
>> >> >> >> > >> problem.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> And this crap-top still won't fax.  I want to reformat the
>> > whole
>> >> >> > thing,
>> >> >> >> > > but
>> >> >> >> > >> want to keep the saved email from this list and a several
>> >> >> hundred
>> >> >> > sent
>> >> >> >> > >> faxes, from when the fax program worked, but I haven't a
> clue
>> > as
>> >> >> >> how
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > >> do
>> >> >> >> > >> that and don't have the time to learn how.  Would OS/2 be
>> >> >> better?
>> >> >> > How
>> >> >> >> > > about
>> >> >> >> > >> Linux?
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> Working a 80 hour week, just to keep this rotten job...
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>> >> >> >> > >> Valparaiso, Indiana
>> >> >> >> > >> '93  5 SPEED   282k few mods
>> >> >> >> > >> '95  5 SPEED   265k lots of mods
>> >> >> >> > >> "double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> > >> From: "Midwest SHO Specialists" <SHOtimes@midwestsho.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> To: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO" <slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>;
>> >> >> >> > >> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:11 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
>> >> >> Transmission
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> > Welcome to the list Jon... It's best to stick around and
>> >> post
>> >> >> > awhile
>> >> >> >> > >> before
>> >> >> >> > >> > you start spamming.
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > :-)
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > ~ Mike
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > Midwest SHO
>> >> >> >> > >> > www.midwestsho.com
>> >> >> >> > >> > Sales@Midwestsho.com
>> >> >> >> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> > >> > From: "V6&V8SHO SHOCAGO"
> <slightlyhigheroutput@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > >> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>> >> >> >> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:24 PM
>> >> >> >> > >> > Subject: [Shotimes] SHOFAST Performance Gen 2 ATX
>> > Transmission
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >     Hello! Newbie to the shotimes list. Name is Jon
>> >> > Martinucci,
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> > >> own
>> >> >> >> > > a
>> >> >> >> > >> 93
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Black metallic ATX SHO. Current Staff member of
>> SHOCAGO,
>> > and
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> > >> member
>> >> >> >> > >> with
>> >> >> >> > >> > > SHOFORUM.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > I want to express my experiance to everyone about
> SHOFAST
>> >> >> >> > >> PERFORMANCE.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > I got my car from SHOFAST 3 days ago with their built
>> up
>> > Gen
>> >> >> 2
>> >> >> > ATX
>> >> >> >> > >> > > transmission and I must say it is the best trans my
>> car
>> >> has
>> >> >> >> ever
>> >> >> >> > >> seen.
>> >> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> >> > >> > > 2-3 shift is as firm as the 1-2. The firmness is solid
>> >> and
>> >> > dead
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > > every
>> >> >> >> > >> > > time. Feels like im getting pushed in the bumper every
>> >> 2-3
>> >> >> >> shift.
>> >> >> >> > >> The
>> >> >> >> > >> > drive
>> >> >> >> > >> > > back from Cincy to Chicago was great and damn does
>> their
>> >> >> >> SHOFAST
>> >> >> >> > > torque
>> >> >> >> > >> > > convertor have great lockup.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > The cost is very competitive with other performance
>> >> >> >> transmissions
>> >> >> >> > > which
>> >> >> >> > >> is
>> >> >> >> > >> > > why I choose to go with them. And the time and service
>> >> was
>> >> >> >> great.
>> >> >> >> > > Brad
>> >> >> >> > >> > the
>> >> >> >> > >> > > owner of SHOFAST promised the car to be finished
>> within
> a
>> >> >> week
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > >> it
>> >> >> >> > >> was
>> >> >> >> > >> > > done in a week.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > I am also in the works of setting up a date to do full
>> >> >> >> suspension
>> >> >> >> > >> upgrade
>> >> >> >> > >> > > along with bigger brakes at SHOFAST for the
>> convention.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > With all the troubles with SHOSHOP its good to see a
>> >> vendor
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > > right
>> >> >> >> > >> > > track.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Not to many people know about SHOFAST and niether did
>> I
>> > till
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> heard
>> >> >> >> > >> about
>> >> >> >> > >> > > them from a freind. They offer high quality of service
>> >> and
>> > I
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> >> > > refer
>> >> >> >> > >> > > others to them due to my excellent experiance.
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > I believe there website is
>> >> >> http://www.shofastperformance.com/
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > End
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > > Jon Martinucci
>> >> >> >> > >> > > SHOCAGO.com STAFF
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> > _________________________________________________________________
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