[Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
Bruce Malachuk
bmalach1@nycap.rr.com
Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:09:09 -0500
Leigh it seems that I really really should spend the money on this, since
just about everyone that has chimed in has said to. I did think ahead and
got those new bushings for the cross shaft as I new that on a 127k mile
orignial clutched tranny they would be needed. Plus I had to break them to
get the arm that the clutch cable attaches to, and the arm was sticking in
there something horrible. I think that half the problem with the way the car
drove was that whole acuation of the TOB.
Is that plastic bushing supposed to be greased with anything? And if so what
is recommended, I have Mobil 1 grease that I have used for suspension parts.
Bruce Malachuk
94 Opal Frost MTX
93 Black ATX soon to be parts
93 Green MTX - black interior...a turd with wheels right now
-----Original Message-----
From: Leigh Smith [mailto:leighsm@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Bruce Malachuk
Cc: 'Mike Kopstain'; 'Ron Porter'; 'SHOTimes'
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
Bruce;
Do yourself a favor and spend the $40 bucks and get it reground. If you want
smooth clutch engagement if must be PERFECTLY flat, not "just about".
Otherwise you get disc drag., etc. If the flywheel is blued, it is a pretty
safe bet the old PP is not flat either, from the heat, just pitch it. Mine
had a 0.012" deep bowl effect. Another item for SMOOTH engagement is new
cross shaft bushings, see Josh. And put a steel quill on the tranny snout
with the new bearing kit. That's it. Cut a corner and you'll be doing it
twice like I did. I just wasn't happy the first time. And my flywheel wasn't
that bad..... (yeah right)
BTDT
Leigh
Bruce Malachuk wrote:
>Well I pulled out one of the spares I have and it is just about
>perfectly flat. I'm gonna get some corse sandpaper for my palm sander
>and just rough it up for a good surface to have the clutch bite into.
>This is gonna be a DD car for the winter, and then I'm prolly going to
>part it out cause I'd never be able to sell it for what I paid for it.
>But all in all I'd like to have a smooth engagement on the clutch. I do
>also have a FW and clutch that came off the same engine, that I could
>put on there, though the PP had some nasty wear starting on it, so I'd have
to use the newer PP.
>
>
>Bruce Malachuk
>
>94 Opal Frost MTX
>
>93 Black ATX soon to be parts
>
>93 Green MTX - black interior...a turd with wheels right now
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Mike Kopstain
>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:43 PM
>To: Bruce Malachuk; 'Ron Porter'; 'SHOTimes'
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
>
>Even at $40.00... It's a 6 hour job. Do you really want to re-do it
>because you wanted to save $40.00? What's your time worth? :-)
>
>~ Mike
>
>Midwest SHO
>www.midwestsho.com
>Sales@Midwestsho.com
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
>To: "'Ron Porter'" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'SHOTimes'"
><shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:25 PM
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
>
>
>
>
>>I really had no idea it was that inexpensive to do. I saw basing my
>>
>>
>thoughts
>
>
>>on pricing on Josh's website. I figured if it was gonna be a $40 cost
>>it wouldn't be worth it to me. But if they usually run 10-20 it's
>>worth doing it.
>>
>>
>>Bruce Malachuk
>>
>>94 Opal Frost MTX
>>
>>93 Black ATX soon to be parts
>>
>>93 Green MTX - black interior...a turd with wheels right now
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net]
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:18 PM
>>To: 'Bruce Malachuk'; 'SHOTimes'
>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
>>
>>"Bite the bullet"???? Aren't we talking maybe $10-20 here?? I wouldn't
>>consider doing a clutch job without a fresh flywheel surface!! Of
>>course,
>>
>>
>I
>
>
>>get the rotors touched up 99% of the time (or I buy new rotors) for
>>every brake pad change!!
>>
>>I would definitely get it done. Or get the spare one resurfaced if you
>>are worried about the heat marks (but it should be OK).
>>
>>Ron Porter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>>On Behalf Of Bruce Malachuk
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:48 PM
>>To: 'SHOTimes'
>>Subject: [Shotimes] SHO Flywheel questions?
>>
>>
>>With the help of a friend in the albany area, last night we finally
>>got
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>transmission outta my 93 green winter car, Found the TOB had cut off
>>some
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>>
>PP
>
>
>>fingers, and guts of the TOB were inside the PP and what not. So I
>>found
>>
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>out
>
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>>why is never really shifted right I guess. The prize for accurate
>>
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>diagnosis
>
>
>>goes to Mark Nunnally, casue he said " sounds like the TOB and PP are
>>
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>messed
>
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>>up" when I was thinking about buying the car.
>>
>>Ok so on to my question. I have blue staining on the metal of the
>>stock
>>
>>
>FW,
>
>
>>which I am pretty sure is damage from heat, but given this car's
>>winter beater status, should I bother refacing the FW, or at the very
>>least swapping it to a spart stock FW that I have, that is not heat
>>blued but
>>
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>not
>
>
>>regoround? I really really hate to cut corners and not regrind a FW,
>>but this car is already going to cost me a set of AL SFB's, new front
>>sway
>>
>>
>links
>
>
>>(or used ones if anyone has some), 4 Exhaust studs, and a set of tools
>>to remove the broken off studs. All in all it's closing in on extra
>>moneys
>>
>>
>that
>
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>>I don't want to spend on the car, all for the sake of parking my Opal
>>
>>
>Frost
>
>
>>for the winter.
>>
>>Should I bite the bullet and have a FW reground? Or will it be ok just
>>slapping a clutch in there, and just driving it as is. I have a nearly
>>new clutch, PP, TOB combo from Mark as well, and I don't want to ruin
>>them
>>
>>
>cause
>
>
>>I cheaped out on a FW grind, even if the car is only gonna see maybe
>>4-5 months of use.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Bruce Malachuk
>>94 Opal Frost MTX SHO - my baby - 1 of 241 produced
>>93 Black ATX SHO - cutting time need the parts
>>93 Green MTX SHO w/black int.-winter car..needs some love
>>95 Silver Frost SE - yeah it's SLOw but reliable -awaiting it's SHO
>>ATX tranny transplant :-)
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