[Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:05:17 -0400 (EDT)

I have had Nitto 450 and Pirelli P7000SS (both in size 235/45-17) on 8" rims. Nitto's have poor grip and handle exceptionally bad on wet roads. P7000SS is much better in both respects.  The bad news a about the 7000's is that they become exceeding noisy as they wear down. I can not recommend either of these tires.

94MTX,green,BOS+

 --- On Tue 09/16, Paul Nimz < niks@dialnetwork.com > wrote:
From: Paul Nimz [mailto: niks@dialnetwork.com]
To: ronporter@prodigy.net, Kirk.doucette@verizon.net, 1badsho@mail.tnh.net, shotimes@autox.team.net
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:46:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires

I have the Kumhos 712 245/45/16s, and at Summit Point could not get them to break lose (once I learned how to drive). IMHO they are a great track tire, one of the first silica based tires, excellent in rain, no good below 40F but I had a very difficult time balancing them. I got about 20k on them. I also have the Nitto 450s (225/50/16). Again IMHO this is a great highway and everyday use tire. Good in the rain, rides nice, no balance problems, usable all year (but not a snow tire), good at the strip and very good, even wear. I am at the point where I need new tires for the '97 and I probably will go with the Nittos. Paul Nimz '97 TR '93 EG mtx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net> To: "'Kirk Doucette'" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; <1badsho@mail.tnh.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires > I beg to differ. From my experience, and others who did the track, the > ES100s ROCK. The are great tires that happen to be inexpensive.....as > opposed to "great tires for the money". > > Ron Porter > > -----Original Message----- > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Kirk Doucette > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:19 PM > To: 1badsho@mail.tnh.net; shotimes@autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires > > > They are the best in that sub 100 price range, they easily are comparable > with the Firehawks. Fire hawks, Goodyear F1 and the Pole Postion are the > best tires if you have blood to sell > > Kirk J Doucette > NESHOC President > Stormtrooper-97 White > > -----Original Message----- > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Donelson Don > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:33 PM > To: shotimes@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires > > list > > > I took don McK.. advice and got the Kumho tires(712's i think ) at tire rack > for $87 a tire. > > For the money ... didnt think i could beat it .. maybe not the best tire but > for a every day driver it should do .. > > dond > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net> > Reply-To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net> > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:46:49 -0500 > > >So, to change the subject (a little) in 225/55-16 size the Kumho712s are > $75 > >each, the Yoko ES100s are $87 each, the Sumitomo HTR Z are $79 each. > > > >Any votes for which way to go? I need to replace the very worn out Dunlop > >SP8000's on my slicers. > > > >Dave > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Nunnally" <manunnal@netheaven.com> > >To: <shotimes@autox.team.net> > >Sent: September 15, 2003 11:29 AM > >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 235x45x17 tires > > > > > >> > Yoko ES100: $111 (I like mine a lot!) > >> > > >> > There's also a flock of tires in the $150 range, like KDWs, AVS Sports, > >> SZ50 > >> > EPs, etc. IMHO, for the money, the Nitto 450s, MXs, and the ES100s are > >> great > >> > tires that sell for a great price, plus they all have good-looking > tread > >> > patterns. > >> > >> The ES100's are WAY better (on the SHO anyway) than the Nitto 450's. I > >have > >> the 450's on my 89 (use them as street tires, to and from the track). > >they > >> are real smooth, easy to balance, and wear like they are made out of > iron. > >> I got a lot of miles on mine and they still look new. they don't have a > >lot > >> of grip though. > >> > >> don't have any wear experience with the ES100's yet (still pretty new) > but > >> the grip is way more than the 450's, and the yoko's are smooth and quiet. > >> > >> mark > >> ______________________________________________
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