[Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
Ron Porter
ronporter@prodigy.net
Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:40:37 -0400
Oh, absolutely!! I'm sure that it's the same issue with a lot of cars. I
wonder how the hell Mercury dealers EVER sold any Merkurs!!
FWIW, for the 15 or so new cars I've purchased, I have NEVER had a
salesperson who knew more about the car than I did! I must say, though, the
Subie salesman I have was sharper than ,most on it, but I was more up on
some of the options than he was.....maybe an unfair comparison, as being a
new model (June, 2004), option choice are changing monthly.
Now, the "loaded" ATX SHOs sold well, but there were a number of reasons for
that.....and many had nothing to do with the performance aspect of it.
Ron Porter
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pnimz@v8sho.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 1:01 PM
To: Ron Porter; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
Personally I feel the SHOs sales numbers are solely a result of Ford's
mucked up sales campaigns. Seems they just expected people to come in and
buy the "loaded" Taurus.
Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
> We are talking apples and atom bombs here. What the motoring press &
> enthusiasts think about a car has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it's
> performance on the showroom floor. If largely decreasing sales that only
> met
> projections ONE year (for the projected 20K/year....and it was in '93 when
> the ATX came out) doesn't qualify as a sales failure, I don't know what
> the
> hell does!! From SHOtimes:
>
> Model Year 5-speeds Automatics Total
> 1989 15,561 15,561
> 1990 8,609 8,609
> 1991 9,136 9,136
> 1992 8,000 8,000
> 1993 *4,095 *18,337 21,991
> 1994 *2,497 *11,201 13,698
> 1995 *2,036 *7,980 10,016
> Right Hand Left Hand
> 1996 91 4,942 5,033
> 1997 1 (one) 10,132 10,133
> 1998 **2,317
> 1999 no data
>
> It's not my "desire to never sound like a cheerleader", it's to fight the
> nausea from the blind cheerleading for this car and I don't find on any of
> the car lists that I've subscribed to over the years. Get real. To love
> the
> car for what it is is fine, to attempt to rewrite history to act like the
> SHO was the Second Coming is way over the top, and not justified.
>
> My description of what dealers and sales people think of the SHO is
> reality.
> There are obviously people here who take it as a slam on all that the car
> is. No, it was more than "a few '89s left over", there were SHOs left
> over
> almost to the next ('91) model year, and this was the case for '89, '95,
> and
> '99s....plus obviously my '94 that sat on the lot for 15 months. I will
> spare the other years of SHOs, as I wasn't looking at leftover sales in
> those years when I wasn't interested in buying.
>
> Don, I guess my 15 years of SHO ownership (and having at least one of each
> Gen) doesn't entitle me to have "maybe" seen a few things with these cars,
> and you obviously don't see me as a "TRUE SHO BELIEVER" since I might dare
> to disparage certain aspects pertaining to these cars.
>
> Ron Porter
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:12 PM
> Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - 2006 Mercury Milan
>
>
> The SHO numbers were better than the new GTO, and no, sales
> didn't nosedive, sales of near 10,000 aren't horrible, even
> is below predictions.
>
> I am not letting anything blind me, I just don't feel like
> the car was a sales failure.
>
> Sure there were 89's left over. With ultra rare exceptions
> there are ALWAYS cars left over well into the next year.
>
> I think you are letting your desire to never sound like a
> cheerleader, cause you to unfairly put down a car that was
> seriously applauded by all the motoring press for more than
> the 15 minutes of fame you assign to it.
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