[Shotimes] My '93 SHO is stalling, mechanic says idle motor (?) is issue
Aaron Lowe
aaronl@insightbb.com
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:48:24 -0600
Thanks to everyone who offered advice for my overheating problem I was
having a couple of weeks back. I am a little more informed now, and I want
to bring this situation back to the SHOtimes crew, where I hope someone
will have some good ideas.
In October, I bought a 93 SHO from a dealer I trust at a small local used
car lot. I was in a pinch -- my previous car had been totalled, and I
needed transportation. I am not really much of a car person, but I liked
the body style of the SHO, and upon visual inspection, both the body and
everything under the hood seemed to be in very good condition for a car 11+
years old. My test drive sealed the deal for me -- having owned a
4-cylinder VW Jetta before, the power and smoothness of handling were
impressive. My SHO has 130k miles, and I really don't know much about its
history before I came to own it.
For the first 2-3 weeks I owned the car, it ran fine. I commute 6 days a
week about 50 highway miles each way. Then, with no warning, the car
started stalling when I would pull off the highway. It ran fine for the
whole 50 mile trip, but when I got to my exit and slowed the car down, it
would stall at a speed of somewhere between 15 and 35 MPH. All I had to do
was to shift the car out of gear and turn the ignition, and it would start
right back up.
I took the car to a mechanic I trust, and they determined that the problem
was due to a MAF sensor malfunction. They cleaned the MAF sensor and
replaced a vacuum hose that they found with a hole in it. My stalling
problem did seem to go away. However, within another week or so, I was
having a new problem -- the overheating problem I wrote to this list about
a few weeks back.
After driving a relatively short distance (5 miles or so in-town driving),
the engine was getting extremely hot. Now, before I started having this
problem, the temp gauge on my dash would show my engine slowly heating up
to normal operating temperature, and then would stay in one position --
between the "O" and "R" in "NORMAL." Once I started having this
overheating problem, the needle on the gauge was varying from the O all the
way up to the A. It still never left the "normal" range, but the engine
smelled very hot and on one occasion, after driving 5 miles or so and then
stopping in a parking lot, a few wisps of white smoke came up from under
the hood.
So I took my SHO back to my mechanic. They kept it for a few hours, then
called me to tell me that yes, it was running too hot, and that the problem
was likely the themostat. I gave them the OK to replace the thermostat,
which they did.
When I first picked up the car after the thermostat had been replaced, I
was alarmed by the fact that the dashboard temp gauge continued to show
large fluctuations that I was not used to seeing. Again, the needle moves
from the A, sometimes up as high as the L in normal, and then back
again. It moves around a lot when I am driving. Before having this
problem and having the thermostat replaced, I never used to visibly see the
needle move at all. Now I can watch it jump all over the place, and I
don't understand this and worry that it is an indication that something is
still wrong.
And now I am having a new stalling problem. I can't figure out any way to
predict when it is going to happen, other than it usually happens at lower
speeds when I am not accelerating at all -- when I'm just "coasting" or
braking to a stop. The oil pressure indicator flashes red a couple of
times, then the check engine light comes on and the car loses
power. Again, I can usually put it into neutral and then start it right
back up.
My mechanic did a diagnostic on the car and tells me that the problem I'm
having now is related to some kind of motor that controls the idle
speed. He says that the engine is idling too low, which is causing the
stalling problem I'm having. He has recommended replacing this "idle
motor" (?), for which he has given me an out-the-door price of about $170,
parts and labor.
Opinions, anyone? Does this sound like a reasonable diagnosis? I like
this car, but I can't afford to keep sinking money into it, only to have
more problems.
Thanks in advance,
Aaron