[Shotimes] RE: running bad, have codes, please help

[Justin Schick]

Thanks for the reply Jim.

More info I forgot to share last night - running the balance test at
the end, it came back that 1 and 5 are weak. I notice these two are next
to each other on the coil, first in line. So I'm thinking the 215 code
for coil #1 is spot on.

Now I just gotta find one for a decent price...


Justin Schick
silver 92 SHO in KC MO
205k and counting quickly

>>> jndleyden@mindspring.com 5/3/2004 8:58:41 PM >>>
Justin,
There is only one coil pack that contains all three coils.  Simply
replace
it.  It is used on more than just the SHO and usually ends up on Ebay
fairly
cheap.  I have seen them go for ~$20 or so plus shipping.  I wouldn't
even
guess what they would cost new.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Schick [mailto:jschick@aafp.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:36 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net; TechSHO@topica.com 
Subject: running bad, have codes, please help

Greetings all,

The high mileage gremlins have struck again. The trusty 92 has been
getting
crappy mileage lately, and having some intermittent issues (especially
directly after starting it cold) that were getting a bit worrisome.
Culminated today by repeating it every time I went to go somewhere -
I'd get
it started and the idle would be real rough and lopey, CE light would
come
on, and any throttle input would make it bog / hesitate and want to
die.
Eventually when it'd warm up to operating temperature the light would
finally go out, and all symptoms immediately vanished. On long trips
the
cycle would appear again, and then just as mysteriously vanish again
(usually lasting for 5 minutes or so).

I ran the KOEO and KOER tests this evening. I got many codes, mainly
because
I'm too stupid to do the goose test right. I will share the pertinent
ones
I'd appreciate feedback on:

KOEO
519 - power steering pressure switch circuit open
215 - coil #1 circuit fail (!)
452 - insufficient input from vehicle speed sensor

KOER
116 - ECT (?)

I used the code list on SHOTimes. 

519 - This is just because I have the VAPS unplugged (on purpose mind
you),
right? Anything else this could be pointing to or I should worry
about?

215 - Yikes. I thought the coil was the yellowish jelly filled box the
non-sparkplug side of the wires plugs into - are there three separate
ones?
If so, should I replace all of them while doing #1? Can the
coil(s) be tested on or off the car? If I'm reading the chart right,
why
would this not trip the CE light?

452 - Just need to buy a new VSS if the old one is plugged in and
otherwise
looks ok? Can it be anything else? Should I even care since the
mechanical
aspect of the speedo works just fine, and the car normally drives
perfectly?

116 - This code doesn't exist, but 115, 117 and 118 all point to the
ECT,
should I just assume I counted wrong and replace it while I'm bending
over
for the coil(s), if they're even available? It's kinda old and I assume
is
part of my poor mileage problem (250-ish miles per tank, and I don't
rag on
it THAT bad).

Thanks in advance for any input,

Justin
silver 92 SHO in KCMO
205k and trying to keep her counting quickly