[Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:48:57 -0400
Well, I don't know much from brown pimples. ; )
It always surprised me that they didn't just throw in forged
pistons too. What the heck.
Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio
-'95 White MTX
'96 Brake Upgrade
Eibachs (front)
"Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
cmichaelo@optonline.net wrote on 10/21/2004 03:25:40 PM:
> Mike,
>
> Well, I was sort of assuming that it DIDN't have forget crank and rods.
>
> I suspected it had forged rods, cause I just changed my rod bearings,
and the rods looked like
> they were forged. But for some reason I didn't believe it...go figure.
>
> I'm surprised to hear that it already has forged crank. It doesn't look
forged at all. How come
> the crank has that brownish pimplishly rugged surface?
>
> I know it has cast pistons for sure.
>
> Michael
> 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
>
> > What do you mean by the last entry, forged internals? The engine
> > already has forged rods and crank, and I wouldn't think that switching
> > from cast to forged on any of those would add hp anyway.
> >
> >
> > Mike Wojton
> > Toledo, Ohio
> >
> > -'95 White MTX
> > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > Eibachs (front)
> >
> > "Avoid the clap." - Jimmy Dugan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 10/21/2004 11:47:45 AM:
> >
> > > OK this is always fun. How much HP do we get from each mod in a
> > 3.0L
> > engine? (This of course
> > > precludes adding displacement....:)
> > >
> > > What so fun about this is that it quite easy to increase the HP
> > of this
> > engine without affecting
> > > the cars usefulness as a daily driver and also without taking an
> > equity
> > loan on your house. You
> > > can probably do the below modifications for ~$5000 + labor.
> > >
> > > The HP numbers below are estimated based on the assumption that
> > all
> > modifications are initially
> > > installed in the car (thus producing 300HP). Then I take one
> > modification away and "estimate" the HP drop.
> > >
> > > Subtotal
> > > Base setup: 220HP
> > > 220HP
> > > Rotating mass (external):
> > > UDP: 5HP
> > > 8lbs flywheel 2HP
> > > 227HP
> > > Exhaust:
> > > HiFlow Y-pipe: 10HP
> > > 2 1/2" catback: 5HP
> > > 242HP
> > > Intake:
> > > 77mmMAF + CAI +
> > > 69mmTB: 12HP
> > > BBB + EH +
> > > porting: 15HP
> > > +20 CAMs: 15HP
> > > 284HP
> > > Electronics:
> > > WideBand HEGO +
> > > Tweecer: 15HP
> > > 299HP
> > > Lubrication:
> > > Amsoil 5W30: 1HP
> > > 300HP
> > >
> > > There are other things one can do, but that will affect the
> > usability of
> > the car as a family sedan, namely:
> > >
> > > Intake:
> > > +40 CAMs 10HP (assuming a +20 base)
> > >
> > > Rotating mass (internal):
> > > Forged crank +
> > > rods + pistons: 10HP
> > > 320HP
> > >
> > > For a grand total of 320HP.
> > >
> > > And there are probably other tricks too, such as flipping the
> > [forged]
> > pistons 180deg, lowering
> > > friction of all turning parts by properly coating them, etc.
> > >
> > > What do you think the HP numbers should be???
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > > 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> > > SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
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