[Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
cmichaelo@optonline.net
cmichaelo@optonline.net
Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:51:32 -0400
Ha, ha. I gotta be one of the few around here who have NEVER had his car on a dyno, nor have I ever run it on a track. So Carl, I don't know.
Michael
94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: RE: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
> How much HP is your BOS+ putting to the ground?
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Thu, October 21, 2004 2:15 pm, cmichaelo@optonline.net said:
> > No, I don't have dyno #s for any of this. I specifically state
> that these
> > are estimated #s.
> >
> > Though, many of these numbers are hearsay, and sort of converted
> to 300HP
> > baseline.
> >
> > In other words, the Ypipe and 2 1/2" exhaust is estimated to
> account for
> > 15HP in a SHO engine containing ALL the mods I listed (and thus
> producing> ~300HP).
> >
> > In fact, I even think that's a pessimistic #. The reason I think
> most> people don't see the HP gains with Y-pipe + 2 1/2" exhaust
> is that other
> > components are limiting high-RPM performance (such as injectors, and
> > incorrect air/fuel ratio.)
> >
> > Michael
> > 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> > SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:37 pm
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
> >
> >> You have dyno #'s for all this? I had a Performance Plus y-pipe
> >> and a
> >> Dynomax cat-back and they didn't increase my HP anywhere near
> >> 15HP. I had it
> >> dynoed once and it had 173 HP to the ground.
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul L Fisher
> >>
> >> 1999 Ford Taurus SHO TR 70K - Kirk'ed 2/29/04.
> >>
> >> - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30
> >> - Amsoil TS-124 Oiled Foam air filter
> >>
> >> Visit my website: http://www.paul-fisher.com
> >> SHOClub Member: http://www.shoclub.com
> >> Amsoil dealer: http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >> On Behalf Of cmichaelo@optonline.net
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:48 AM
> >> To: shotimes
> >> Subject: [Shotimes] How to get 300HP from your 3.0L SHO engine
> >>
> >> OK this is always fun. How much HP do we get from each mod in
> a 3.0L
> >> engine? (This of course precludes adding displacement....:)
> >>
> >> What so fun about this is that it quite easy to increase the HP of
> >> thisengine without affecting the cars usefulness as a daily driver
> >> and also
> >> without taking an equity loan on your house. You can probably do
> >> the below
> >> modifications for ~$5000 + labor.
> >>
> >> The HP numbers below are estimated based on the assumption that all
> >> modifications are initially installed in the car (thus producing
> >> 300HP).Then I take one modification away and "estimate" the HP
> drop.>>
> >> Subtotal
> >> Base setup: 220HP
> >> 220HP
> >> Rotating mass (external):
> >> UDP: 5HP
> >> 8lbs flywheel 2HP
> >> 227HP
> >> Exhaust:
> >> HiFlow Y-pipe: 10HP
> >> 2 1/2" catback: 5HP
> >> 242HP
> >> Intake:
> >> 77mmMAF + CAI +
> >> 69mmTB: 12HP
> >> BBB + EH +
> >> porting: 15HP
> >> +20 CAMs: 15HP
> >> 284HP
> >> Electronics:
> >> WideBand HEGO +
> >> Tweecer: 15HP
> >> 299HP
> >> Lubrication:
> >> Amsoil 5W30: 1HP
> >> 300HP
> >>
> >> There are other things one can do, but that will affect the
> >> usability of the
> >> car as a family sedan, namely:
> >>
> >> Intake:
> >> +40 CAMs 10HP (assuming a +20 base)
> >>
> >> Rotating mass (internal):
> >> Forged crank +
> >> rods + pistons: 10HP
> >> 320HP
> >>
> >> For a grand total of 320HP.
> >>
> >> And there are probably other tricks too, such as flipping the
> [forged]>> pistons 180deg, lowering friction of all turning parts
> by properly
> >> coatingthem, etc.
> >>
> >> What do you think the HP numbers should be???
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael
> >> 94MTX,green,BOS+,Koni/Intrax,Baer,Corbeau
> >> SHO items for sale: http://hometown.aol.com/cmichaelo/for_sale.html
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