cams in a 3.2 was RE: Re: [Shotimes] 89 sho dyno charts posted

[Bruce Malachuk]

Well if you take into account what other engines of nearly the same
modifications are making, Our setups would be nearing 300 crank or possibly
a little more. I use Lance Cheney's car as a benchmark making like 290 at
the crank, with similar mods. If you plug into eec analyzer the size of your
fuel pump, and or the esitmated HP and size of the injector it will let you
see numbers. Get ready to have a fuel rail modified if you want to do bigger
injectors. 

I can do this for you or any gen1/2 owner, as my machine shop is all setup
to do the work. 


Bruce J Malachuk

*	94 Opal Frost MTX 
*	93 Emerald Green MTX - SOLD 
*	93 Black ATX - New Parts CAR 
*	95 Silver Frost ATX SE - SLO -Buyer waiting 
*	96 TR - Cam Failed parts car :-(


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Bruce Malachuk; 'Mark Nunnally'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: cams in a 3.2 was RE: Re: [Shotimes] 89 sho dyno charts posted

What was the max duty cycle you were running the 3.2 injectors? We have very
similar setups. I was going to run the 3.2 injectors but if they were
closing in on 90% or so I will reconsider..

Ian


--- Bruce Malachuk <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> IIRC last I knew mark was running stock 3.0 injectors. I will have a 
> set of
> 3.2 injectors that were cleaned, balanced, and have only been run 6k 
> since their install. Should have them off the car in a week. With the 
> tweecer and tuning of injector slopes it was easy to make sure the 
> slightly higer flow injectors were just right.
> 
> I have a set of 30# accels that I want to throw into the car, as per 
> eec analyzer in theory I should be closing in on the injector's upper 
> end, and if the SHOshop headers make good numbers and I add them I'm 
> gonna want the buffer in the % of use.
> 
> 
> Bruce J Malachuk
> 
> *	94 Opal Frost MTX 
> *	93 Emerald Green MTX - SOLD 
> *	93 Black ATX - New Parts CAR 
> *	95 Silver Frost ATX SE - SLO -Buyer waiting 
> *	96 TR - Cam Failed parts car :-(
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:46 PM
> To: Mark Nunnally; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: cams in a 3.2 was RE: Re: [Shotimes] 89 sho dyno charts 
> posted
> 
> Sweet-any adjustable sprocket settings that you recommend for the 
> street?
> 
> What injectors are you using? 
> 
> Ian
> 
> --- Mark Nunnally <marknunnally@JoiMail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Any speculation as to what kind of tq losses
> would
> > be
> > > realized with a bump in displacement? In other
> > words,
> > > if we can figure out an average of the percent
> of
> > tq
> > > lost across the rev band with +20 cams on a 3.0,
> > does
> > > anyone think that percent average would remain
> the same or drop if
> > > running the cams on a 3.2 (vs
> > stock
> > > cams or 3.0 cams)?
> > 
> > Apples to apples (same thing in both motors) I'd
> say ~7% increase
> > (same as displacement bump)
> > 
> > My 3.2L made more torque at mid/low rpm than a
> same BOS 3.0L engine,
> > but both engines were making the same torque from
> about 6000 rpm on.  
> > Which tells me the cams/intake, etc are a cork for
> all out top end HP
> > on anything bigger than 183 CI.
> > 
> > Thus to answer your question, a 3.2L going from
> stock, to a better
> > breathing head/cam/runner is going to probably
> "wake up" more than a
> > 3.0L would.
> > 
> > mark
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