[Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

[Ron Porter]

On the side topic.....

How did your house fare through Wilma?

Ron Porter

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:42 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

Back from Wilma...

Until I did the Road Atlanta event at the '99 convention, I had never
given the brakes much thought other than the constant warping of the
rotors I endured.  To prep for the track event, I installed PFCM pads
and new rotors.  In the second session, I had the car at about 110
going down the long straight.  When the brake pedal sank straight to
the floor I had a very bad feeling.  Fortunately pumping the brakes a
few more time gave me enough hydraulic pressure to slow the car down. 
That's why when I had the opportunity to do the 96 brake upgrade I
never blinked.

I just don't understand the design decision to put 10" brakes on the SHO.

By contrast, the 330i I have now has 13" brakes!!!  I think I'm set on
this car.  The only thing I might consider is going to ceramic pads
after I do some more research on them.  Apparently BMW pads are known
to wear out after only 20K miles.  But man do they stop hard.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Wed, November 2, 2005 14:33, Ron Porter said:
> I still believe that better pads will cure that by decreasing the
> amount of
> time you spend standing on the pedal.
>
>
>
> I have never boiled fluid on any of the SHOs. Three of four ad '96
> brakes,
> and the '89 had stock brakes with PFCM pads that survived Blackhawk
> and
> Mid-Ohio.
>
>
>
> Ron Porter
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Paul Nimz [mailto:pnimz@v8sho.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:51 AM
> To: `V6 SHOtimes; Ron Porter
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again
>
>
>
> No the fluid boils.  I still have brakes but the pedal travel will
> increase
> and stay that way until I bleed the front calipers again.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/2/2005 2:22:42 AM, Ron Porter (ronporter@prodigy.net) wrote:
>> And you are complaining about the pedal going away and/or boiling
>> fluid.
>>
>> The Ford pads are good for OEM pads that can stand up to an
>> occasional
>> track use. For your setup with track tires and more than a couple of
>> track
>> events each year, better pads will do you well. I think that you
>> will have
>> a new respect for the brakes on the car if you get better pads. The
>> big
>> difference is in heat resistance. The Porterfield R4S had no fading
>> for me
>> throughout a session. I have heard the same on the EBC Reds. I also
>> considered running the Porterfield R4 on the track, and those are
>> tried-
>> and-proven good track pads (a bit noisy for the street, and a touch
>> cold-
>> blooded, as I understand).
>>
>> IMHO, having pads last that long is like saying you got 75K on a set
>> of
>> tires. Nice, but not the optimal performance setup. Better pads, as
>> with
>> better tires,
>> won't last as long, but will work much better during their life.
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> Paul Nimz <pnimz@v8sho.com> wrote:
>> Well with the Cobras that's
>> going to happen right?
>>
>> I've had this set of brake pads on now for three Gingermans and the
>> convention......
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 11/1/2005
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