[Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 41

Warren Goodman wjtwgoodman at aol.com
Sat Mar 7 18:12:33 MST 2020


Don't forget to add NHTSA  regulations.  Google 1967 NHTSA regulations for an eye opener.  Dual circuit brakes, crush zones ... 
Beating a Chrysler motor to fit would have been easier.
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Today's Topics:

  1. Oil Pressure Gauge Removal (Stu)
  2. Urban legend (Curt Bowland)
  3. Re: Urban legend (Jim Sencindiver)
  4. Re: Urban legend (Stu)
  5. Re: Urban legend (Gary)


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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:45:35 -0500
From: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
To: Tiger Net <Tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Oil Pressure Gauge Removal
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I did this once before, so I know I'm going to feel stupid when someone
tells me the trick....

I'm trying to get the gauge out to upgrade the hose.  I can get one of the
knurled nuts on the U-bracket free, but not the one on the top. I have the
speedometer out, and am reaching in through that hole, able to get a finger
or a finger and a half on the nut.  But not enough to turn it,

It didn't look like removing the tach would provide any better access.

Does anyone out there know a trick?

Stu
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 19:48:16 +0000
From: Curt Bowland <cbowland at msn.com>
To: tigers <tigers at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Urban legend
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While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware that the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.

I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wondering if that might have worked/been a possibility.  Probably would have been to expensive a change to tool for.
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 17:56:57 -0500
From: Jim Sencindiver <jd.sencindiver at gmail.com>
To: Curt Bowland <cbowland at msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
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Another part of the problem was where to relocate the heater core and
re-route the air vent hoses and coolant hoses.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware that
> the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of
> the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.
>
> I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall
> notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wondering
> if that might have worked/been a possibility.  Probably would have been to
> expensive a change to tool for.
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-- 
Jim Sencindiver

B382100451/TAC 448
http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp
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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 18:47:02 -0500
From: Stu <sabre2tgr at gmail.com>
To: Curt Bowland <cbowland at msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
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IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, but
they were also much wider.  The budget to do a major redesign of the engine
compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it bumper?)
requirements was not there,  So Tigers ended in '67.

Stu

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers <
tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:

> While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was aware that
> the inability of clearance available to accommodate the rear position of
> the distributor was THE issue for the demise of the Tiger.
>
> I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic firewall
> notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb installation. Just wondering
> if that might have worked/been a possibility.  Probably would have been to
> expensive a change to tool for.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 16:06:15 -0800
From: Gary <garywinblad at comcast.net>
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Urban legend
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Stu is the winna...
Urban myth is just that, a myth when it comes? to Sunbeam Tiger 
distributors and engines causing it to be discontinued.

One good description from: 
https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/1968-u-s-lawmakers-introduce-automotive-safety-standards/

The first set of rules took effect exactly fifty years ago, January 
1968; less than fifteen months after the agency was established.

Most of the new regulations simply codified best practice; requiring all 
vehicles to have padded instrument panels, recessed inside door handles, 
non-rigid armrests, breakaway inside mirrors, labeled controls, 
twin-circuit brakes, two-speed wipers covering a minimum percentage of 
the windscreen area, a left-hand outside mirror, reversing lamps and 
four-way hazard flashers.

Other regulations required new features: energy-absorbing steering 
columns, a warning lamp for brake circuit depressurization, minimal 
post-collision fuel spillage, front and rear side marker lights or 
reflectors, and windscreens with thicker-interlayer safety glass and 
improved retention. Finally, all vehicles had to survive a 30 mph (48 
kph) crash into a concrete barrier demonstrating survivability of 
standardized test dummies in the front seats.

etc...

Gary



On 3/7/2020 3:47 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
> IIRC Chrysler V-8's of the era not only had the distributor problem, 
> but they were also much wider.? The budget to do a major redesign of 
> the engine compartment, as well as meet the new '68 safety (or was it 
> bumper?) requirements was not there,? So Tigers ended in '67.
>
> Stu
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Curt Bowland via Tigers 
> <tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:tigers at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>    While I have no idea about the Chrysler engine fit thread I was
>    aware that the inability of clearance available to accommodate the
>    rear position of the distributor was THE issue for the demise of
>    the Tiger.
>
>    I have seen several Tigers with what looks like fairly dramatic
>    firewall notching, mostly all to accommodate Weber Carb
>    installation. Just wondering if that might have worked/been a
>    possibility.? Probably would have been to expensive a change to
>    tool for.
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