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Hello RACER Friend....It will not Change...If Motor racing becomes =
Safe...Then...Motor Racing, rather than drivers, will Die
Racer Bud
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From: Jim=20
To: N197TR4@cs.com=20
Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] CAR RACING & DEATH
Well, this opens the essential question: Is vintage racing about =
history (historic cars and what not) or about racing?
Having only a little experience in open track racing (was there, =
looked over the edge.. melted a piston, found a job, new girlfriend, =
prepped autocross car, lost girlfriend, lost job, found wife) I don't =
have decades of experience in vintage racing.
My understanding when I started is that ultimately, it's supposed to =
be fun. Yes, the grim reaper lurks about, and engine meltdowns and =
mechanical failures are never fun. But... we're not doing it for money. =
Not for the cheap chunks of pressboard that some racing groups call =
trophies. We're doing it for FUN.
To test ones self on climbing a summit that's never been climbed =
before. Be it running a lap under xx time at yy track in a Spitfire. =
Or whatever you drive.
Kind of like riding a time trial in cycling. Beat the clock.. hope =
the Mac truck doesn't run you over in the process.
But if it's not fun.. why do it?
There were comments about what Vintage is supposed to be (8/10s, etc). =
In reality... it's supposed to be like the real racing was. Good =
judgement means you drive your car to your (and it's) limits and not =
beyond, as to not put others at risk. Things happen on track and we =
hope they don't... and if we're smart we have contingency plans in the =
back of the head for when they do. At the same time... it's like being =
a doctor. Do no harm.
So I was never worried about the risk on track. Just worried about =
what the goal of the other drivers was. If they're also there for fun.. =
then usually things work out ok. If they think they need to beat you at =
any cost... maybe it's time for another sport.
My .02
Cheers,
Jim
Dallas
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] =
On Behalf Of N197TR4@cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:33 PM
To: budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com; =
standardtriumph@btinternet.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] CAR RACING & DEATH
Yup,=20
Do not jump out of airplanes...=20
Do not solo ultralight aircraft (when the builder's name is Harold =
Flatland)=20
Do not ski AJAX...or even Copper Mountain after a 20 year hiatus.=20
Do not climb mountains that require pitons.....=20
Do not ride a motorcycle in downtown London during rush hour....=20
Do not ride Motocross Competition after age 70....(unless your number =
is 196)=20
Do not play golf with OJ=20
Stay home and look good at your funeral....=20
I enjoy cottonmouth and shots of adrenaline.=20
I also enjoy the people I associate with.=20
Joe A=20
Hi Gang....Here It Is.......Straight Out....CAR RACING AND =
DEATH....I've kept kinda' Quiet about the subject ..Regarding Deaths =
in Vintage Racing...and have Layed Back and contemplated things as I've =
read the numerous emails......=20
The Essence of Race Driving is to go as fast as we can to win!=20
Some of us will die doing that.....That's just the way it =
is....That's REALLY the way it is.!.....=20
Vintage...Who the heck knows who's driving over their heads or =
not?...No Way To Tell.....=20
Racer Bud's Conclusion..I.f the word DANGER creeps into your mind =
very often..DO NOT RACE.......=20
Racer Bud..Spitfire #21=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello RACER Friend....It will not=20
Change...If Motor racing becomes Safe...Then...Motor Racing, rather =
than=20
drivers, will Die</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Racer Bud</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbritbits@netzero.com =
href=3D"mailto:britbits@netzero.com";>Jim</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DN197TR4@cs.com=20
href=3D"mailto:N197TR4@cs.com";>N197TR4@cs.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, =
2008 7:18=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] CAR RACING =
&=20
DEATH</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Well, this opens the essential =
question: Is=20
vintage racing about history (historic cars and what not) or about=20
racing?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Having only a little experience in open =
track racing=20
(was there, looked over the edge.. melted a piston, found a job, new=20
girlfriend, prepped autocross car, lost girlfriend, lost job, found =
wife) I=20
don't have decades of experience in vintage =
racing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>My understanding when I started is that =
ultimately,=20
it's supposed to be fun. Yes, the grim reaper lurks about, and =
engine=20
meltdowns and mechanical failures are never fun. But... we're =
not doing=20
it for money. Not for the cheap chunks of pressboard that some =
racing=20
groups call trophies. We're doing it for =
FUN.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>To test ones self on climbing a summit =
that's never=20
been climbed before. Be it running a lap under xx time at yy =
track in a=20
Spitfire. Or whatever you drive.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Kind of like riding a time trial in =
cycling. =20
Beat the clock.. hope the Mac truck doesn't run you over in the=20
process.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>But if it's not fun.. why do =
it?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>There were comments about what Vintage is =
supposed to=20
be (8/10s, etc). In reality... it's supposed to be like the real =
racing=20
was. Good judgement means you drive your car to your (and it's) =
limits=20
and not beyond, as to not put others at risk. Things =
happen on=20
track and we hope they don't... and if we're smart we have contingency =
plans=20
in the back of the head for when they do. At the same time... =
it's like=20
being a doctor. Do no harm.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>So I was never worried about the risk on =
track. =20
Just worried about what the goal of the other drivers was. If =
they're=20
also there for fun.. then usually things work out ok. If they =
think they=20
need to beat you at any cost... maybe it's time for another=20
sport.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>My .02</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Jim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D546140302-25092008>Dallas</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> fot-bounces@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>N197TR4@cs.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:33=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com;=20
standardtriumph@btinternet.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
fot@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Fot] CAR RACING &=20
DEATH<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2 =
PTSIZE=3D"10">Yup, <BR><BR>Do=20
not jump out of airplanes... <BR>Do not solo ultralight aircraft (when =
the=20
builder's name is Harold Flatland) <BR>Do not ski AJAX...or even =
Copper=20
Mountain after a 20 year hiatus. <BR>Do not climb mountains that =
require=20
pitons..... <BR>Do not ride a motorcycle in downtown London during =
rush=20
hour.... <BR>Do not ride Motocross Competition after age 70....(unless =
your=20
number is 196) <BR>Do not play golf with OJ <BR><BR>Stay home and look =
good at=20
your funeral.... <BR><BR>I enjoy cottonmouth and shots of adrenaline. =
<BR>I=20
also enjoy the people I associate with. <BR><BR>Joe A <BR><BR><BR>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Hi Gang....Here It Is.......Straight Out....CAR RACING =
AND=20
DEATH....I've kept kinda' Quiet about the subject ..Regarding=20
Deaths in Vintage Racing...and have Layed Back and =
contemplated things=20
as I've read the numerous emails...... <BR>The Essence of Race =
Driving is to=20
go as fast as we can to win! <BR>Some of us will die doing =
that.....That's=20
just the way it is....That's REALLY the way it is.!.....=20
<BR><BR>Vintage...Who the heck knows who's driving over their heads =
or=20
not?...No Way To Tell..... <BR>Racer Bud's Conclusion..I.f the =
word=20
DANGER creeps into your mind very often..DO NOT RACE....... =
<BR><BR>Racer=20
Bud..Spitfire #21 <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
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