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Re: [Fot] Studebaker stories

To: westerneagleracing@att.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Studebaker stories
From: koblinger@verizon.net
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
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Interestingly enough, Studebaker almost became the Triumph=20
importer/distributor for the US. One of the prototype TR2s was even sent=20
over for evaluation but they couldn't come to an agreement. Soon after=20
Dorothy Deen and Arthur Anderson met Sir John Black and the rest is=20
history.

For a time, Studebaker was the importer/distributor in the US for=20
Mercedes-Benz.

Kurt O.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, westerneagleracing@att.net wrote:

Bud,
In 1953 and 54 they were either Comanders (V-8) or Champions (6 cly) in=20
55 they added the President and beginning in1956 they were mildly=20
restyled and given various Hawk names.
It's funny but a lot of TR owners are Studebaker  lovers as well.
Ron Western Eagle Racing Jacobs
-------------- Original message from "RACER BUD" <budscars@comcast.net>:=20
--------------

Thanks Bob..for the Terrific history...I am forwarding it to my=20
Newsletter Group
Racer Bud
----- Original Message -----
 From: Robert Johns <mailto:rjohns@woh.rr.com>=20
<mailto:rjohns@woh.rr.com>
To: RACER BUD <mailto:budscars@comcast.net> ; Steven Preiss=20
<mailto:spreiss@verizon.net> ; edwardbarnard@prodigy.net=20
<mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>  <mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>=20
<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:45 PM  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Studebaker stories  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>

  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
All right guys, you have done it.  I am going to have to tell you my=20
tale of woe.  Visualize this!  I was attending the Swiss Auto Club=20
Racing Drivers School in Monza, Italy in 1956.  After we attended=20
classes, they grouped us in classes (more like bunches) to do some=20
racing.

After Studebaker had merged with Packard, they built a variation of the=20
Hawk with the huge Packard engine of the day.  What did I know of such=20
things?   I was stuck in Europe at the time.  Guess what they stuck in=20
the class with me, one of these monsters.

Off we went, racing our little hearts out.  Me in my little TR2, the=20
Stude (model?) Hawk, and several more interesting pieces of iron.  That=20
Stude would blow my doors off going down the straight and I would pass=20
him on the next set of curves.  Back and forth we went, and I think I=20
finally got far enough ahead of him that he didn't catch me again.

Speaking of interesting iron.  That race was my first and only=20
experience of running against a genuine Austin Healy S (not M,  but S).=20
They were not many built, and the Importer for Switzerland had this one,=20
and it ran very well,  with its cross flow head and lots of tricks.

Any ways,  that is my Studebaker story.

Bob Johns


----- Original Message -----
 From: RACER BUD <mailto:budscars@comcast.net>=20
<mailto:budscars@comcast.net>
To: Steven Preiss <mailto:spreiss@verizon.net> ;=20
edwardbarnard@prodigy.net <mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>=20
<mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>=20
<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:12 PM  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>

  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
One of my favorite cars for Style was the (I think 53 stude..Golden=20
Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were literaly=20
'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoting a=20
movie which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the=20
cars that added to the racing bug
Racer Bud
----- Original Message -----
 From: Steven Preiss <mailto:spreiss@verizon.net>=20
<mailto:spreiss@verizon.net>
To: edwardbarnard@prodigy.net <mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>=20
<mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>=20
<mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:04 AM  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>

  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
One of my neighborhood friends growing up was a Studebaker nut, a=20
passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt inherited from his dad.=20
They would work into the night in the carport on one or another of their=20
cars, droplights providing a weary glow. The cars, which as I recall=20
ranged from a 1950 convertible, painted red with a white top, to a sleek=20
Silver Hawk with a 289 and glass packs, always seemed exotic in an=20
atypical American sort of way. A buddy of theirs had what they referred=20
to as 'the Studebaker farm', which was actually a small dairy farm , the=20
main pasture of which was lined with over 100 Studebakers that had been=20
hauled in from all over the countryside and carefully placed side by=20
side around the perimeter, providing an endless supply of parts and=20
projects. Martin was a somewhat laconic fellow who carpeted his cars=20
with an array of carpet "chucks" gleaned from a local flooring company.=20
He also was the first in our group of carpoolers to drive his own car to=20
school. Some wild rides down narrow curving residential streets are=20
emblazoned in my memory. One striking characteristic of the cars was the=20
overdrives, activated by a little toggle switch always placed=20
inconspicuously under the dash. Another was their propensity for burning=20
oil, which meant that the dipstick became a familiar friend. Which leads=20
me to the point. Whether a result of unintentional poor' design or=20
intentional daily abuse, cans of STP were always kept in the trunks of=20
the cars, along with quarts of inexpensive motor oil, giving true=20
meaning to the term, "Studebaker Tested Products"!
STeve P. ----- Original Message -----
 From: EDWARD BARNARD <mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>=20
<mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>
To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com <mailto:ehusmann53@yahoo.com> ;=20
dkettler@tcbi.com <mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com>  <mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com>
Cc: FOT <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:44 AM  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>

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Lister's: Thank you to all that answered my question about STP. A call=20
to their H.Q. public relations office this morning has revealed what we=20
should assume is the truth. The STP does stand for Scientifically=20
Treated Petroleum. The Wiki reference to it standing for Studebaker=20
Tested Products is in fact true. The company did tie their name to the=20
product for a short time until Andy G. took over. But, the Wiki=20
reference to King Richard no longer being a spokeperson for the company=20
is false. According to the P.R. department, they have the longest=20
commercial endorse in history.  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
Thanks again to the list!  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
  -Ed-

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, David Kettler <dkettler@tcbi.com> wrote:
  <mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
 From: David Kettler <dkettler@tcbi.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question
To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com
Cc: "FOT" <fot@autox.team.net>, edwardbarnard@prodigy.net
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM

I recall when I was a kid collecting STP stickers at gas stations.
I always understood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.

Dave Kettler

At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, Ernest Husmann <ehusmann53@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Ed:
>
> From STP's web page: STP =3D Scientifically Treated Petroleum--- On
Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net> wrote:
> From: EDWARD BARNARD <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>Subject: [Fot] Non-
LBC group questionTo: "FOT" <fot@autox.team.net>Date: Tuesday,
September
30, 2008, 11:06 AM
>
> Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters
(Kurtis',
Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.
In 1963 Studebaker purchased from three gentlemen a little known
company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product
they were selling from the trunks of their cars. Studebaker gave
Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test driver for Studebaker
the position of CEO of the newly acquired company which he then renamed
STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of
STP? I am getting mixed answers from The Racing History Group. Most
say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are saying
it stands for Studebaker Test Products. Do any of the FOTers know
the "true" side of the story?
> BTW, later I will relate this past Saturday spent with three great
guys, Johnny Rutherford, Lloyd Ruby,  and Jim McElreath, at a car
show we had.
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<DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LET=
TERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Interestingly enough, Studebaker almost beca=
me the Triumph importer/distributor for the US. One of the prototype TR2s w=
as even sent over for evaluation but they couldn't come to an agreement. So=
on after Dorothy Deen and Arthur Anderson met Sir John Black and the rest i=
s history.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#0=
00000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FO=
NT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNIN=
G=3D"0">For a time, Studebaker was the importer/distributor in the US for M=
ercedes-Benz.</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#00000=
0" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT F=
ACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D=
"0">Kurt O.</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000"=
 LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FAC=
E=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0=
">On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, westerneagleracing@att.net wrote:</FONT>=
</DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"=
0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000=
000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT=
 FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=
=3D"0">Bud, <FONT SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT =
FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=
=3D"0">In 1953 and 54 they were either Comanders (V-8) or Champions (6 cly)=
 in 55 they added the President and beginning in1956 they were mildly resty=
led and given various Hawk names. <FONT SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV=
 ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERS=
PACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">It's funny but a lot of TR owners are Studebaker=
&nbsp; lovers as well. <FONT SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"L=
EFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0=
" KERNING=3D"0">Ron Western Eagle Racing Jacobs <FONT SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></F=
ONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#0=
00000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">-------------- Original message fr=
om &quot;RACER BUD&quot; &lt;budscars@comcast.net&gt;: -------------- </FON=
T></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=
=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SI=
ZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Thanks Bob..fo=
r the Terrific history...I am forwarding it to my Newsletter Group </FONT><=
/DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" =
LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Racer Bud </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT=
"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" K=
ERNING=3D"0">----- Original Message ----- <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"><=
/FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" CO=
LOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>From: </B><FONT COLOR=
=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:rjohns@woh.rr.com";><U>Robert Johns</U></A><A=
 HREF=3D"mailto:rjohns@woh.rr.com";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LE=
FT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0"=
 KERNING=3D"0"><B>To: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:budscar=
s@comcast.net"><U>RACER BUD</U></A><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000">; <FONT COLOR=3D=
"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:spreiss@verizon.net";><U>Steven Preiss</U></A></=
FONT>; <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net"=
><U>edwardbarnard@prodigy.net</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodig=
y.net"></A></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=
=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"=
><B>Cc: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><=
U>fot@autox.team.net</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FON=
T></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=
=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, Octo=
ber 01, 2008 7:45 PM <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" =
SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Subject: =
</B>Studebaker stories <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=
=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEF=
T"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" =
KERNING=3D"0"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></DIV><DIV A=
LIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACI=
NG=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">All right guys, you have done it.&nbsp; I am going t=
o have to tell you my tale of woe.&nbsp; Visualize this!&nbsp; I was attend=
ing the Swiss Auto Club Racing Drivers School in Monza, Italy in 1956.&nbsp=
; After we attended classes, they grouped us in classes (more like bunches)=
 to do some racing.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Ve=
rdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&nbsp=
; <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><=
FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNIN=
G=3D"0">After Studebaker had merged with Packard, they built a variation of=
 the Hawk with the huge Packard engine of the day.&nbsp; What did I know of=
 such things?&nbsp;&nbsp; I was stuck in Europe at the time.&nbsp; Guess wh=
at they stuck in the class with me, one of these monsters.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FO=
NT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#00=
0000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&nbsp; <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D=
"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"=
 COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Off we went, racing ou=
r little hearts out.&nbsp; Me in my little TR2, the Stude (model?) Hawk, an=
d several more interesting pieces of iron.&nbsp; That Stude would blow my d=
oors off going down the straight and I would pass him on the next set of cu=
rves.&nbsp; Back and forth we went, and I think I finally got far enough ah=
ead of him that he didn't catch me again.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"=
LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0"=
 KERNING=3D"0">&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"=
Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Speak=
ing of interesting iron.&nbsp; That race was my first and only experience o=
f running against a genuine Austin Healy S (not M,&nbsp; but S).&nbsp; They=
 were not many built, and the Importer for Switzerland had this one, and it=
 ran very well,&nbsp; with its cross flow head and lots of tricks. </FONT><=
/DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000=
" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&nbsp; <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2">=
</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COL=
OR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Any ways,&nbsp; that is my=
 Studebaker story.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=
=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"=
>&nbsp; <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"L=
EFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" =
KERNING=3D"0">Bob Johns </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verd=
ana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&nbsp; =
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FO=
NT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNIN=
G=3D"0">&nbsp; <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALI=
GN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACI=
NG=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">----- Original Message ----- <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SI=
ZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZ=
E=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>From: </B><F=
ONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:budscars@comcast.net";><U>RACER BUD<=
/U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:budscars@comcast.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV=
 ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERS=
PACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>To: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"ma=
ilto:spreiss@verizon.net"><U>Steven Preiss</U></A><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000">;=
 <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";><U>ed=
wardbarnard@prodigy.net</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net"=
></A></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Ve=
rdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Cc=
: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><U>fot@=
autox.team.net</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FO=
NT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#00=
0000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, October 01,=
 2008 9:12 PM <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=
></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D=
"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Subject: </B>Re:=
 [Fot] Non-LBC group question <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" =
COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=
=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=
=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></DIV=
><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETT=
ERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">One of my favorite cars for Style was the (I =
think 53 stude..Golden Hawk?..no fins...when the fins were added..they were=
 literaly 'attached')..i saw a NASCAR Hawk in a movie theater lobby promoti=
ng a movie which I cannot remember(mid -late 1950s)...That was one of the c=
ars that added to the racing bug </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FAC=
E=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">=
Racer Bud </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3=
" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">----- Original Messag=
e ----- <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"L=
EFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0=
" KERNING=3D"0"><B>From: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:spre=
iss@verizon.net"><U>Steven Preiss</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:spreiss@verizon.=
net"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZ=
E=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>To: </B><FON=
T COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";><U>edwardb=
arnard@prodigy.net</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";></A>=
</FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" C=
OLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Cc: </B><FONT COLOR=
=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><U>fot@autox.team.net</U=
></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALI=
GN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACI=
NG=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:04 AM <FO=
NT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FON=
T></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000=
000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] Non-LBC gr=
oup question <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
</A></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000"=
 LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FAC=
E=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0=
"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT=
"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KER=
NING=3D"0">One of my neighborhood friends growing up was a Studebaker nut, =
a passion (or perhaps a genetic trait) no doubt inherited from his dad. The=
y would work into the night in the carport on one or another of their cars,=
 droplights providing a weary glow. The cars, which as I recall ranged from=
 a 1950 convertible, painted red with a white top, to a sleek Silver Hawk w=
ith a 289 and glass packs, always seemed exotic in an atypical American sor=
t of way. A buddy of theirs had what they referred to as 'the Studebaker fa=
rm', which was actually a small dairy farm <FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman" S=
IZE=3D"3">, the main pasture of which was lined with over 100 Studebakers t=
hat had been hauled in from all over the countryside and carefully placed s=
ide by side around the perimeter, providing an endless supply of parts and =
projects. Martin was a somewhat laconic fellow who carpeted his cars with a=
n array of carpet &quot;chucks&quot; gleaned from a local flooring company.=
 He also was the first in our group of carpoolers to drive his own car to s=
chool. Some wild rides down narrow curving residential streets are emblazon=
ed in my memory. One striking characteristic of the cars was the overdrives=
, activated by a little toggle switch always placed inconspicuously under t=
he dash. Another was their propensity for burning oil, which meant that the=
 dipstick became a familiar friend. Which leads me to the point. Whether a =
result of unintentional poor' design or intentional daily abuse, cans of ST=
P were always kept in the trunks of the cars, along with quarts of inexpens=
ive motor oil, giving true meaning to the term, &quot;Studebaker Tested Pro=
ducts&quot;! </FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"=
 SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">STeve P. --=
--- Original Message ----- <FONT FACE=3D"Arial" SIZE=3D"2"></FONT></FONT></=
DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000"=
 LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>From: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A =
HREF=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";><U>EDWARD BARNARD</U></A><A HREF=
=3D"mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D=
"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D=
"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>To: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:ehus=
mann53@yahoo.com"><U>ehusmann53@yahoo.com</U></A><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000">; =
<FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com";><U>dkettler@tc=
bi.com</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailto:dkettler@tcbi.com";></A></FONT></FONT></FONT=
></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=
=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Cc: </B><FONT COLOR=3D"#3=
333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><U>FOT</U></A><A HREF=3D"mailt=
o:fot@autox.team.net"></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FAC=
E=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0=
"><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:44 AM <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><=
A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"=
LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"=
0" KERNING=3D"0"><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question <FONT COL=
OR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DI=
V><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" K=
ERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"=
3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><A HREF=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net"></A></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdan=
a" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Lister's:=
 Thank you to all that answered my question about STP. A call to their H.Q.=
 public relations office this morning has revealed what we should assume is=
 the truth. The STP does stand for Scientifically Treated Petroleum. The Wi=
ki reference to it standing for Studebaker Tested Products is in fact true.=
 The company did tie their name to the product for a short time until Andy =
G. took over. But, the Wiki reference to King Richard no longer being a spo=
keperson for the company is false. According to the P.R. department, they h=
ave the longest commercial endorse in history. <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A H=
REF=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEF=
T"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" =
KERNING=3D"0">Thanks again to the list! <FONT COLOR=3D"#3333FF"><A HREF=3D"=
mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FON=
T FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=
=3D"0">&nbsp;-Ed- </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#=
000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><F=
ONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNI=
NG=3D"0">--- On <B>Tue, 9/30/08, David Kettler </B><B><I>&lt;dkettler@tcbi.=
com&gt; </I></B>wrote: </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verda=
na" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#3333FF" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><A HREF=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";></A></FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT F=
ACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D=
"0">From: David Kettler &lt;dkettler@tcbi.com&gt; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=
=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=
=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Subject: Re: [Fot] Non-LBC group question </FONT></DIV=
><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LE=
TTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">To: ehusmann53@yahoo.com </FONT></DIV><DIV =
ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSP=
ACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Cc: &quot;FOT&quot; &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;, e=
dwardbarnard@prodigy.net </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Ver=
dana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Date: =
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:52 PM </FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SI=
ZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DI=
V ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTER=
SPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">I recall when I was a kid collecting STP sticke=
rs at gas stations.</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" =
SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">I always und=
erstood it to be Scientifically Tested Products.</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"=
Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br=
></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000=
000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">Dave Kettler</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=
=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"=
><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"=
#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">At Tuesday, 30 September 2008, E=
rnest Husmann &lt;ehusmann53@yahoo.com&gt; </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"=
><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KE=
RNING=3D"0">wrote:</FONT></DIV><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#=
000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"><br></FONT><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><F=
ONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNI=
NG=3D"0">&gt;Ed:</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZ=
E=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&gt; </FONT></D=
IV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" =
LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&gt;From STP's web page: STP =3D Scientif=
ically Treated Petroleum--- On </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=
=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"=
>Tue, 9/30/08, EDWARD BARNARD &lt;edwardbarnard@prodigy.net&gt; wrote:</FON=
T></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000=
000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&gt;From: EDWARD BARNARD &lt;edwardb=
arnard@prodigy.net&gt;Subject: [Fot] Non-</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><=
FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN=
ING=3D"0">LBC group questionTo: &quot;FOT&quot; &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;D=
ate: Tuesday,</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=
=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">September </FONT=
></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#0000=
00" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">30, 2008, 11:06 AM</FONT></DIV><DIV A=
LIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPA=
CING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&gt;</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D=
"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">&g=
t;Lister's: I'm writing a magazine article about Indy roadsters</FONT></DIV=
><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LE=
TTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">(Kurtis',</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><=
FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN=
ING=3D"0">Novi', etc) and am examining the Studebaker/Packard powered cars.=
</FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D=
"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">In 1963 Studebaker purchased fr=
om three gentlemen a little known </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FA=
CE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"=
0">company named Chemical Compounds, which had an oil additive product </FO=
NT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#00=
0000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">they were selling from the trunks o=
f their cars. Studebaker gave </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=
=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0"=
>Andy Granatelli, then head engineer and chief test driver for Studebaker <=
/FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"=
#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">the position of CEO of the newly=
 acquired company which he then renamed </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><F=
ONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNI=
NG=3D"0">STP. Now my question...does anyone know for certain the meaning of=
 </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=
=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">STP? I am getting mixed answ=
ers from The Racing History Group. Most </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><F=
ONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNI=
NG=3D"0">say it stands for Specially Treated Petroleum, while a few are say=
ing </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLO=
R=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">it stands for Studebaker Te=
st Products. Do any of the FOTers know </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FO=
NT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNIN=
G=3D"0">the &quot;true&quot; side of the story? </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"=
LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"=
0" KERNING=3D"0">&gt;BTW, later I will relate this past Saturday spent with=
 three great </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=
=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">guys, Johnny Rut=
herford, Lloyd Ruby,&nbsp; and Jim McElreath, at a car </FONT></DIV><DIV AL=
IGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPAC=
ING=3D"0" KERNING=3D"0">show we had. </FONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT=
 FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERNING=
=3D"0">&gt;Thanks - Ed - _______________________________________________</F=
ONT></DIV><DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"3" COLOR=3D"#0=
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