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Re: [Fot] Aluminum connectors

To: "'Rocky Entriken'" <rocky@spitfire4.com>, "'Bill Tobin'" <william.tobin31@verizon.net>, "'Doug Mitchell'" <dmitchel@sbcglobal.net>, "'Fot'" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum connectors
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 20:51:23 +0100
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Maybe even American connector technology is helpless against the will of oil
to leave British engines :-)
Designed to drip as my father said....he had an engineering degree of
Cambridge on top of the German engineering degree.


-----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rocky Entriken [mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2014 20:48
An: Bill Tobin; Doug Mitchell; MadMarx; Fot
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Aluminum connectors

With respect, I disagree with Bill on the pipe dope, which is a bitch to
clean off completely when you need to (and can wander into the plumbing just
as easily if done wrong).

Secret to Teflon tape, do not wrap the tape at the very last thread of the
fitting (same for pipe dope if you prefer that). But upon disassembly, the
tape is so much easier and cleaner to remove. I've also found if I need a
fitting to point to 12 o'clock, but it points somewhere else when tight, an
additional wrap of tape can adjust that easily.

BTW, proper AN fittings never need tape/dope. The angled seats do the
sealing (I crank mine pretty tight, BTW. Also I have the aluminum wrenches,
and to my non-engineer "feel" the handles seem to be made to just the right
length/leverage to provide the correct fit from hand-tightening). Pipe
threads always need the tape/dope.

The only leak issues I've experienced have always been with pipe thread
fittings. Even with tape/dope. (Issues, that is, not directly attributable
to it being a British car! :-)

--Rocky Entriken

. "There are only three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing and
motor racing. The rest are merely games." --Barnaby Conrad (NOT Hemingway)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Tobin" <william.tobin31@verizon.net>
To: "Doug Mitchell" <dmitchel@sbcglobal.net>; "MadMarx"
<tr4racing@googlemail.com>; "Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum connectors


> Hi, the male seating part of the fitting could possibly have a nick or
> scratch, hindering proper sealing. The same with the female connector on
> the hose. Most hose connectors can be taken apart and re-used.
> I favor pipe dope over the teflon tape; I think it seals better and bits
> of teflon tape can wander off down the plumbing system. Just my preference

> or course.
> The AN fittings don't need brute force when tightening. I wont swear to
> it, but excess tightening force could deform the fittings. Any thoughts?
> Happy New Year to all. I hope the new year brings us all peace, happiness,

> and prosperity. And fun times with our old cars!
> Cheers, Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Mitchell" <dmitchel@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "MadMarx" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>; "Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Aluminum connectors
>
>
>> Chris,
>> These are called AN fittings.B From my experience, they are very reliable

>> and don't leak if they are in good condition. In your photo, the left end

>> has a slight taper and is a pipe fitting. It should be wrapped with
>> Teflon tape. The other end should _not_ be wrapped. I have seen these
>> used on test engines an dynomometer stands for many hours with no leaks.
>>
>>
>> Doug
>> dmitchel@sbcglobal.net
>> Sent from my mobile phone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
>> Date: 12/31/2014  6:44 AM  (GMT-05:00)
>> To: fot@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Fot] Aluminum connectors
>>
>> Hi @ all,
>>
>> hope you are getting well to the next year.
>>
>> My car has many oil lines and also a lot of aluminum connectors and some
>> of
>> the them do leak.
>> Is there any trick to seal them?
>> I think that I have tighten them enough and hesitate to tighten more not
>> to
>> destroy them.
>>
>> Is there a seal missing in those connectors?
>>
>> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41P918-F13L.jpg
>>
>> Just an example what I mean for the system.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
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