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Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
From: "MadMarx" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:18:17 +0200
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That was a good hind Duncan!

After the run I saw in the dry sump tank some foam on top.

Maybe a 0,5=E2=80=9D thick layer.

I also removed some of the oil 2 or 3 hours later to give it to an oil =
specialist and while sucking it out of the tank I saw in the clear hose =
foam, oil and metal bits.

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Thanks

Chris

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Von: Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 14:52
An: MadMarx
Cc: AC; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph; triumphs@autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator

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It may have allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to move =
oil with air bubbles in it.  It apparently has no anti-foaming =
additives, so when you add it to your oil, you are diluting the =
additives in the regular oil.  There was an article on the =
bobistheoilguy.com website some years back that showed in graphic detail =
what happens with this additive whether it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox =
or an engine.  Unfortunately I can only find an archived version of this =
article and the photos are no longer visible.  The photos I remember =
showed the oil turning a much lighter color after it had been thoroughly =
agitated, which meant it was filled with air bubbles.  Air compresses, =
so I can see a connection between aerated oil and a drop in oil =
pressure.

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http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8

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Duncan

(Texas)

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On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrote:

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Hello Alex,

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I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I did.

This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.

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I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t able =
to force it through the system and opened the relive valve.

=20

Chris

=20

Von: AC [mailto:ac@camoletti.ch]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19
An: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net; MadMarx
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator

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Hallo lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral and synthetic.=20



---- MadMarx a =C3=A9crit ----

Hi Guys,

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by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans of =
Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA TR8.

Listen to the difference.

The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi on =
driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.

=20

The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank bearings =
and a worn out camshaft.

This has happened in April.

My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.

=20

 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc> =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc

=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>That was a good hind Duncan!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>After the run I saw in the dry sump tank some foam on =
top.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Maybe a 0,5=E2=80=9D thick layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I also removed some of the oil 2 or 3 hours later to give it to an =
oil specialist and while sucking it out of the tank I saw in the clear =
hose foam, oil and metal bits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Duncan Charlton [mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com] =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 12. September 2015 14:52<br><b>An:</b> =
MadMarx<br><b>Cc:</b> AC; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It may have =
allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to move oil with air =
bubbles in it. &nbsp;It apparently has no anti-foaming additives, so =
when you add it to your oil, you are diluting the additives in the =
regular oil. &nbsp;There was an article on the <a =
href=3D"http://bobistheoilguy.com";>bobistheoilguy.com</a> website some =
years back that showed in graphic detail what happens with this additive =
whether it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox or an engine. &nbsp;Unfortunately =
I can only find an archived version of this article and the photos are =
no longer visible. &nbsp;The photos I remember showed the oil turning a =
much lighter color after it had been thoroughly agitated, which meant it =
was filled with air bubbles. &nbsp;Air compresses, so I can see a =
connection between aerated oil and a drop in oil =
pressure.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8";>http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8</a></span>=
</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Duncan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>(Texas)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hello Alex,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I =
did.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This stuff is stiff like frozen =
honey.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t =
able to force it through the system and opened the relive =
valve.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span=
></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>AC [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ac@camoletti.ch";>mailto:ac@camoletti.ch</a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br><b>Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Samstag, 12. September 2015 =
09:19<br><b>An:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>''Friends of Triumph' =
Triumph'; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; =
MadMarx<br><b>Betreff:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hallo =
lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral and synthetic.<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>---- MadMarx a =
=C3=A9crit ----<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Guys,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans =
of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA =
TR8.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Listen to the difference.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi =
on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank =
bearings and a worn out camshaft.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This has happened in April.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:purple'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc</spa=
n></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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