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The only thing I use is STP, and if you read the can, one of the =
ingredients is a thing called ZDDP.
No problems so far (knock on wood).
Bill
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Doug Mitchell=20
To: MadMarx=20
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph=20
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
My dad, one of the engineers responsible for the Buick/Rover 3.5 =
taught me that if you start with a quality motor oil, there is no need =
for any additives. Disagree if you wish, but I have stuck with that =
advice.
Doug Mitchell
Sent from my mobile phone
-------- Original message --------
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>=20
Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends of Triumph' Triumph =
<fot@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator=20
It may have allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to move =
oil with air bubbles in it. It apparently has no anti-foaming =
additives, so when you add it to your oil, you are diluting the =
additives in the regular oil. There was an article on the =
bobistheoilguy.com website some years back that showed in graphic detail =
what happens with this additive whether it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox =
or an engine. Unfortunately I can only find an archived version of this =
article and the photos are no longer visible. The photos I remember =
showed the oil turning a much lighter color after it had been thoroughly =
agitated, which meant it was filled with air bubbles. Air compresses, =
so I can see a connection between aerated oil and a drop in oil =
pressure.
http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8
Duncan
(Texas)
On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> =
wrote:
Hello Alex,
I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I did.
This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.
I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t =
able to force it through the system and opened the relive valve.
Chris
Von: AC [mailto:ac@camoletti.ch]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19
An: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net; MadMarx
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
Hallo lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of =
them, mineral and synthetic.=20
---- MadMarx a =C3=A9crit ----
Hi Guys,
by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans =
of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA TR8.
Listen to the difference.
The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi =
on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.
The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank =
bearings and a worn out camshaft.
This has happened in April.
My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The only thing I use is STP, and if you =
read the=20
can, one of the ingredients is a thing called ZDDP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>No problems so far (knock on =
wood).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddbm.spitfire@gmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:dbm.spitfire@gmail.com";>Doug=20
Mitchell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtr4racing@googlemail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>MadMarx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>'Friends of Triumph' Triumph</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 12, =
2015 9:22=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil=20
Stabilisator</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>My dad, one of the engineers responsible for the Buick/Rover 3.5 =
taught=20
me that if you start with a quality motor oil, there is no need for =
any=20
additives. Disagree if you wish, but I have stuck with that =
advice.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Doug Mitchell</DIV>Sent from my mobile phone<BR><BR><BR>-------- =
Original=20
message --------<BR>From: Duncan Charlton <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com";>duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</=
A>>=20
<BR>Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00) <BR>To: MadMarx <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</A>>=
=20
<BR>Cc: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends">triumphs@autox.team.net,=
'Friends</A>=20
of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net> <BR>Subject: Re: [Fot] =
Lucas=20
Oil Stabilisator <BR><BR><BR>It may have allowed your oil to aerate so =
your=20
pump was trying to move oil with air bubbles in it. It =
apparently has no=20
anti-foaming additives, so when you add it to your oil, you are =
diluting the=20
additives in the regular oil. There was an article on the <A=20
href=3D"http://bobistheoilguy.com";>bobistheoilguy.com</A> website some =
years=20
back that showed in graphic detail what happens with this additive =
whether=20
it=E2=80=99s used in a gearbox or an engine. Unfortunately I can =
only find an=20
archived version of this article and the photos are no longer visible. =
The photos I remember showed the oil turning a much lighter =
color after=20
it had been thoroughly agitated, which meant it was filled with air =
bubbles.=20
Air compresses, so I can see a connection between aerated oil =
and a drop=20
in oil pressure.
<DIV><BR>
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FONT-SIZE: 13px"><A=20
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IV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Duncan</DIV>
<DIV>(Texas)</DIV>
<DIV><B><BR></B>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</A>>=
=20
wrote:</DIV><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV=20
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>Hello Alex,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
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<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And =
so I=20
did.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>This stuff is stiff like frozen =
honey.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump =
wasn=E2=80=99t able to=20
force it through the system and opened the relive=20
valve.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
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lang=3DEN-US>Chris<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>AC [<A=20
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class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><B>Gesendet:</B><SPAN =
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MadMarx<BR><B>Betreff:</B><SPAN =
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[Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P=20
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm">Hallo=20
lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral=20
and synthetic.<SPAN =
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></P>
<P=20
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serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=20
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----<O:P></O:P></P>
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lang=3DEN-US>Hi Guys,</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV=20
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<DIV=20
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
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FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I =
fill in two=20
cans of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA =
TR8.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>Listen to the difference.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV=20
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
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FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never =
got over 40=20
psi on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
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FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on =
all crank=20
bearings and a worn out camshaft.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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lang=3DEN-US>My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems =
that he=E2=80=99s=20
getting back to work next week and tries to repair the=20
engine.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV>
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