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Re: [Fot] GT6 Burnt plugs

To: Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> s=q20140121; t=1445014643; bh=mHT/l6K+a9iLwZorG1OsQSgBTdN+lZETCqzX3hZ2TGU=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=HXKuec8s87GQn4UuxyPmEb9tjWWPg3coejKdgwQPkKpi0a4J2DhJa34Dpd7iheASz zJGMKC1igJifYHYNMSkZeoBIF8lkPgJ00ucMw6Or24PlzlbFSZJYfkMo303DR3AZMp HA9VqEx+Q5fWEtXC7OIyVcB0FcyO9MMt/HtAPwyPBRZyRoOMi21QxNWkEvF28AahUf WfnTHCT3JEg6ulCHSZlJHUdle8o5uYo8GadfuECg2cS2y0w3XrlZnR1OvQqSELtWMC giSRoymQgCrjl2sowl0/jypY1iHSAml1nRfyO/aaSDm9YS5ALkIBBgyUV715rO0ePj yCITkTMHd2BpQ==
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Burnt plugs
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:57:20 -0600
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=93but what about the main jets."



ZS jets actually are adjustable, just not easily. The depth (from the =
bridge to the top of the jet) of the jets on my 175 ZS carbs can range =
from 0.085 to 0.187 inches. I have mine set at 0.125=94 deep. Don=92t =
know if 150=92s are the same but I suspect it=92s close to the same.

To adjust take a 3/8 inch bolt and grind it flat on the bottom. Put two =
nuts on to lock your =93depth setter=94 bolt and then tap the jet down =
to a measured depth (with your dial indicator). To move it up tap from =
the bottom with a Honda valve guide (or similar protection) to protect =
the jet. I=92ve set the jets with the carbs still on the carb.

0.085 is lean and 0.187 is rich so adjust accordingly. Be precise this =
is not a big range but it can make a difference.


Bud Rolofson

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On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you check the plugs after the overheating so that you know it was =
from fuel problems not the overheating??
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> What needles are you running? How far open is the adjusting nut for =
the mixture?
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> Never be beaten by equipment.
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:42 AM, <damys@charter.net> wrote:
> Finally got the GT6 back together and had it at Brainerd for two track =
days.  First day still had overheating issues even with the oil cooler, =
external octopus oiling and scirocco rad.  Also had a vibration in the =
rear.=20
>=20
> Then we fabricated a full rad shroud and re-did one of the 240Z rear =
axles.  Lost all but a very minor vibration that show up at around 100 =
MPH which might just be from driving an 1800 lb car that fast.=20
>=20
> Cured the overheating and actually had to tape the rad and oil cooler. =
 After many laps the water was at 200 and the oil at 220.  Outside temp =
65-70 degrees.
>=20
> Our new problem is we burned the electrodes off of number 1 and 4 =
plugs. The other four looked a little lean, but not bad.  We are running =
1.50 Strombergs.
>=20
> It seems to me that the stock intake is starving 1 and 4.=20
>=20
> I've read that Kas drilled the float jets to cure starvation at high =
RPM's, but what about the main jets.  Will this cause serious bog at =
mid-RPM's.  Also would reworking the number 1 and 4 intake runners help =
the problem.  We are maxing out at 6000 RPM's.
>=20
> As for the minor vibration, we have a rebuilt, fully welded 3:89.=20
>=20
> Planning on Elkhart in the Spring. Any ideas?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Dave and Alex Amys
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>=20
>=20
> =20
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what about the main =
jets."<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>ZS jets actually =
are adjustable, just not easily. The depth (from the bridge to the top =
of the jet) of the jets on my 175 ZS carbs can range from 0.085 to 0.187 =
inches. I have mine set at 0.125=94 deep. Don=92t know if 150=92s are =
the same but I suspect it=92s close to the =
same.</div><div><br></div><div>To adjust take a 3/8 inch bolt and grind =
it flat on the bottom. Put two nuts on to lock your =93depth setter=94 =
bolt and then tap the jet down to a measured depth (with your dial =
indicator). To move it up tap from the bottom with a Honda valve guide =
(or similar protection) to protect the jet. I=92ve set the jets with the =
carbs still on the carb.</div><div><br></div><div>0.085 is lean and =
0.187 is rich so adjust accordingly. Be precise this is not a big range =
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<br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Kas Kastner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com";>kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Did you check the plugs after the =
overheating so that you know it was from fuel problems not the =
overheating??</div><div><br></div><div>What needles are you running? How =
far open is the adjusting nut for the mixture?</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div =
class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be =
beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:42 AM,  <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:damys@charter.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">damys@charter.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>Finally got the GT6 back together and =
had it at Brainerd for two track days.&nbsp; First day still had =
overheating issues even with the oil cooler, external octopus oiling and =
scirocco rad.&nbsp; Also had a vibration in the rear.&nbsp; </p><p>Then =
we fabricated a full rad shroud and re-did one of the 240Z rear =
axles.&nbsp; Lost all but a very minor vibration that show up at around =
100 MPH which might just be from driving an 1800 lb car that fast.&nbsp; =
</p><p>Cured the overheating and actually had to tape the rad and =
oil&nbsp;cooler.&nbsp; After many laps the water was at 200 and the oil =
at 220.&nbsp; Outside temp 65-70 degrees.</p><p>Our new problem is we =
burned the electrodes off of number 1 and 4 plugs. The other four looked =
a little lean, but not bad.&nbsp; We are running 1.50 =
Strombergs.</p><p>It seems to me that the stock intake is starving 1 and =
4.&nbsp; </p><p>I've read that Kas drilled the&nbsp;float jets&nbsp;to =
cure starvation at high RPM's, but what about the main jets.&nbsp; Will =
this cause serious bog at mid-RPM's.&nbsp; Also would reworking the =
number 1 and 4 intake runners help the problem.&nbsp; We are maxing out =
at 6000 RPM's.</p><p>As for the minor vibration, we have a =
rebuilt,&nbsp;fully welded 3:89.&nbsp; </p><p>Planning on Elkhart in the =
Spring. Any ideas?</p><p>Thanks</p><p>Dave and Alex =
Amys</p><p><br></p><div>&nbsp;<br =
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