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My first thought was that if you were having to force the gearbox when it
was 3 to 4 inches away from home, it may be the spines in the clutch disc
and the input shaft were causing some interference. This should have been
an easy slip fit. Did you lubricate the spines? Test fit the disc on the
input shaft? Installing a gearbox should not be a tedious affair. Or,
you did not get the disc properly aligned using the little plastic tool.
There is a lot of wiggle room for error. I've found that an old input
shaft works better than the plastic ones for getting good alignment.
That brings me to my next observation. If for some reason the clutch disc
is hanging up on the input shaft it will not disengage as smoothly as it
should. Is this your problem? It's not clear to me what you mean when you
say "difficult clutch".
I have never heard of any need to break-in a clutch.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 2:15 PM Michael Oritt via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Simon--
>
> I cut the head off one bolt to make it easier to R&R the secondary
> cylinder. I also fashioned a small door in the extension panel to give
> access to the bleed nipple from inside rather than only under the car.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> You=E2=80=99ll recall the Overdrive saga. Have decided not to commission=
a TV
>> mini-series per someone=E2=80=99s advice.
>>
>> 1) The overdrive is in and works very well. I haven=E2=80=99t tested the=
pressure
>> yet =E2=80=93 I will =E2=80=93 but it clicks in and out very briskly.
>>
>> 2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to get the old bits off until I
>> borrowed that magic tool. Used the black nylon(?) tool from AHSpares as =
so
>> much handier than the spare original shaft.
>>
>> 3) Putting the gearbox back in was pretty tedious. It would go in all th=
e
>> way except for the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it out again and checked the
>> alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in, pushed, shoved and curs=
ed.
>> In the end we wound it on with long threaded bolts. I don=E2=80=99t want=
to put in
>> another clutch. Ever.
>>
>> 4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-
>>
>> Initially, getting the car into any gear was very graunchy and really th=
e
>> car would have been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the same as before =
but
>> nothing was happening except expensive noise.
>>
>> Although there was no evidence of a loss of fluid =E2=80=93 why would th=
ere be? =E2=80=93
>> I bled the clutch. I have fitted the extension tube so it wasn=E2=80=99t=
tricky.
>> That did make a difference but not to the way it was previously.
>>
>> So (1) Is it normal for clutches to be difficult at first? A sort of
>> =E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=9D period??
>>
>> (2) I=E2=80=99ll bleed it again but am drawn to getting a longer push ro=
d for the
>> slave cylinder. Does that make sense? I do have to push the pedal down
>> pretty far. Comments?
>>
>> (3) Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6digging around in my files, I sa=
w a suggestion to
>> cut the head off the top bolt that locates the slave cylinder. Then to
>> Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg. ie that bolt is a bit of =
a
>> PITA and one bolt would suffice. Wouldn=E2=80=99t it??
>>
>> All advice would be very welcome,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My first thought was that if you were having to force=
the gearbox when it was 3 to 4 inches away from home, it may be the spines=
in the clutch disc and the input shaft were causing some interference.=C2=
=A0 This should have been an easy slip fit.=C2=A0 Did you lubricate the spi=
nes?=C2=A0 Test fit the disc on the input shaft? =C2=A0 Installing a gearbo=
x should not be a tedious affair.=C2=A0 Or, you did not get the disc proper=
ly aligned using the little plastic tool.=C2=A0 There is a lot of wiggle ro=
om for error.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I've found that an old input shaft works bett=
er than the plastic ones for getting good alignment.=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>That brings me to my next observation.=C2=A0 If for som=
e reason the clutch disc is hanging up on the input shaft it will not disen=
gage as smoothly as it should.=C2=A0 Is this your problem?=C2=A0 It's n=
ot clear to me what you mean when you say "difficult clutch".<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div> I=C2=A0 have never heard of any need to break-in=
a clutch.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 2:15 PM Michael Oritt via Heale=
ys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Si=
mon--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I cut the=
head off one bolt to make it easier to R&R the secondary cylinder. I a=
lso fashioned a small door in the=C2=A0extension=C2=A0panel to give access =
to the bleed nipple from inside rather than only under the car.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"EN-GB"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">You=E2=80=99ll recall the Overdri=
ve saga. Have decided not to commission=C2=A0 a TV mini-series per someone=
=E2=80=99s advice.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) The overdrive=
is in and works very well. I haven=E2=80=99t tested the pressure yet =E2=
=80=93 I will =E2=80=93 but it clicks in and out very briskly.<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to get the ol=
d bits off until I borrowed that magic tool. Used the black nylon(?) tool f=
rom AHSpares as so much handier than the spare original shaft. <u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) Putting the gearbox back in was pretty tedi=
ous. It would go in all the way except for the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it =
out again and checked the alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in, =
pushed, shoved and cursed. In the end we wound it on with long threaded bol=
ts. I don=E2=80=99t want to put in another clutch. Ever.<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Initially, getting the car into any gear was very graun=
chy and really the car would have been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the=
same as before but nothing was happening except expensive noise. <u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although there was no evidence of a loss of=
fluid =E2=80=93 why would there be? =E2=80=93 I bled the clutch. I have fi=
tted the extension tube so it wasn=E2=80=99t tricky. That did make a differ=
ence but not to the way it was previously.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">So (1) Is it normal for clutches to be difficult at first? A sort o=
f =E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=9D period??<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">(2) I=E2=80=99ll bleed it again but am drawn to getting a longer push=
rod for the slave cylinder. Does that make sense? I do have to push the pe=
dal down pretty far. Comments?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">(3) =
Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6digging around in my files, I saw a sug=
gestion to cut the head off the top bolt that locates the slave cylinder. T=
hen to Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg. ie that bolt is a bit=
of a PITA and one bolt would suffice. Wouldn=E2=80=99t it?? <u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All advice would be very welcome,<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>__________________________________________=
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