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I don't know if Mirek's Rey went to the list or just a few of us but he
makes the excellent point that once oriented correctly the gearbox should
snug up to the rear plate pretty easily and one definitely should not need
to use 3" bolts to pull the gearbox into place.
This suggests that either the pilot bushing was in some way damaged during
earlier removal of the transmission or that the input shaft is of
different pattern or dimensions than its predecessor. Please do not ask
how I know....
Best-Michael Oritt
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 9:49 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> A couple random thoughts:
>
> - do the special (read: expensive) 'dowel bolts' make a difference on
> installation? Anyone know the real purpose of these?
>
> - what shape is your clutch M/C in?
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 9/19/2021 2:15 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote:
>
> Simon--
>
> I cut the head off one bolt to make it easier to R&R the secondary
> cylinder. I also fashioned a small door in the extension panel to give
> access to the bleed nipple from inside rather than only under the car.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> You=E2=80=99ll recall the Overdrive saga. Have decided not to commission=
a TV
>> mini-series per someone=E2=80=99s advice.
>>
>> 1) The overdrive is in and works very well. I haven=E2=80=99t tested the=
pressure
>> yet =E2=80=93 I will =E2=80=93 but it clicks in and out very briskly.
>>
>> 2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to get the old bits off until I
>> borrowed that magic tool. Used the black nylon(?) tool from AHSpares as =
so
>> much handier than the spare original shaft.
>>
>> 3) Putting the gearbox back in was pretty tedious. It would go in all th=
e
>> way except for the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it out again and checked the
>> alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in, pushed, shoved and curs=
ed.
>> In the end we wound it on with long threaded bolts. I don=E2=80=99t want=
to put in
>> another clutch. Ever.
>>
>> 4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-
>>
>> Initially, getting the car into any gear was very graunchy and really th=
e
>> car would have been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the same as before =
but
>> nothing was happening except expensive noise.
>>
>> Although there was no evidence of a loss of fluid =E2=80=93 why would th=
ere be? =E2=80=93
>> I bled the clutch. I have fitted the extension tube so it wasn=E2=80=99t=
tricky.
>> That did make a difference but not to the way it was previously.
>>
>> So (1) Is it normal for clutches to be difficult at first? A sort of
>> =E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=9D period??
>>
>> (2) I=E2=80=99ll bleed it again but am drawn to getting a longer push ro=
d for the
>> slave cylinder. Does that make sense? I do have to push the pedal down
>> pretty far. Comments?
>>
>> (3) Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6digging around in my files, I sa=
w a suggestion to
>> cut the head off the top bolt that locates the slave cylinder. Then to
>> Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg. ie that bolt is a bit of =
a
>> PITA and one bolt would suffice. Wouldn=E2=80=99t it??
>>
>> All advice would be very welcome,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don't know if Mirek's Rey went to the list or j=
ust a few of us but he makes the excellent=C2=A0 point that once oriented c=
orrectly the gearbox should snug up to the rear plate pretty easily and one=
definitely should not need=C2=A0 to use 3" bolts to pull the gearbox =
into place.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This s=
uggests that either the pilot bushing was in some way damaged during earlie=
r removal of the transmission=C2=A0 or that the input shaft is of different=
pattern or dimensions than its predecessor.=C2=A0 Please do not ask how I =
know....</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best-Michael Or=
itt=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021, 9:49 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
A couple random thoughts:<br>
<br>
- do the special (read: expensive) 'dowel bolts' make a differe=
nce
on installation? Anyone know the real purpose of these?<br>
<br>
- what shape is your clutch M/C in? <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 9/19/2021 2:15 PM, Michael Oritt via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Simon--</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I cut the head
off one bolt to make it easier to R&R the secondary
cylinder. I also fashioned a small door in the=C2=A0extension=C2=
=A0panel
to give access to the bleed nipple from inside rather than
only under the car.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael
Oritt</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23
PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t;
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-GB">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You=E2=80=99ll recall the Overdrive sa=
ga.
Have decided not to commission=C2=A0 a TV mini-series per
someone=E2=80=99s advice.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) The overdrive is in and works very
well. I haven=E2=80=99t tested the pressure yet =E2=80=93 I=
will =E2=80=93 but
it clicks in and out very briskly.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to
get the old bits off until I borrowed that magic tool.
Used the black nylon(?) tool from AHSpares as so much
handier than the spare original shaft. </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) Putting the gearbox back in was
pretty tedious. It would go in all the way except for
the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it out again and checked
the alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in,
pushed, shoved and cursed. In the end we wound it on
with long threaded bolts. I don=E2=80=99t want to put in an=
other
clutch. Ever.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Initially, getting the car into any
gear was very graunchy and really the car would have
been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the same as before
but nothing was happening except expensive noise. </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although there was no evidence of a
loss of fluid =E2=80=93 why would there be? =E2=80=93 I ble=
d the clutch.
I have fitted the extension tube so it wasn=E2=80=99t trick=
y.
That did make a difference but not to the way it was
previously.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So (1) Is it normal for clutches to
be difficult at first? A sort of =E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=
=9D period??</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(2) I=E2=80=99ll bleed it again but am=
drawn
to getting a longer push rod for the slave cylinder.
Does that make sense? I do have to push the pedal down
pretty far. Comments?</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(3) Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6digging
around in my files, I saw a suggestion to cut the head
off the top bolt that locates the slave cylinder. Then
to Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg. ie
that bolt is a bit of a PITA and one bolt would suffice.
Wouldn=E2=80=99t it?? </p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All advice would be very welcome,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
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