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Re: [Healeys] New clutch query

To: "'simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com'" <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New clutch query
From: gradea1@charter.net
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 01:36:07 +0000 qMmonBNmwDaj21S4v30zaMFMfNQj1xED01kEXvFKWPblXqyN8ZPUBsHUlcsP3YTUczfytut+3KPqIICjQ0D1rh8PZJdohu8HmeCYudti1M/MuxieP0BICRT4
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Hopefully, you have the correct parts! In the early MKI/MKII series=0Aca=
rs there were several different clutch plates as well as a couple of=0Ad=
ifferent bell housings. There is one bell housing that does not fit=0Aon=
e of the clutch pressure plates and rubs (expensive noise you=0Adescribe=
). Since you used your original bell, you should insure that=0Ayou got t=
he correct PP.=0AIt's real important, now-a-days, to check that the part=
s removed=0AIDENTICALLY match the ones that you are now putting on. I do=
n't trust=0Aany newly manufactured items unless the match the original.=
=0AAfter inserting the gearbox, properly aligned, you should only have t=
o=0Aclose up about 1/2" or less bell to block with the proper original=
=0Abolts.=0AOne other thought, if you used the fingered/hung on TO press=
ure plate,=0Ait is possible to damage it if you let the weight of the ge=
arbox lay=0Aon it before it was fully home. If you used the standard spr=
ing unit=0Athat would not be the issue. Hank=0A=0A=09-------------------=
----------------------From: "Simon Lachlan via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "Healey=
s"=0ACc: =0ASent: Sunday September 19 2021 1:24:33PM=0ASubject: [Healeys=
] New clutch query=0A=0A=09You=E2=80=99ll recall the Overdrive saga. Hav=
e decided not to commission a=0ATV mini-series per someone=E2=80=99s adv=
ice. =0A=0A=091) The overdrive is in and works very well. I haven=E2=80=
=99t tested the=0Apressure yet =E2=80=93 I will =E2=80=93 but it clicks=
 in and out very briskly. =0A=0A=092) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to=
 get the old bits off until I=0Aborrowed that magic tool. Used the black=
 nylon(?) tool from AHSpares=0Aas so much handier than the spare origina=
l shaft. =0A=0A=093) Putting the gearbox back in was pretty tedious. It=
 would go in all=0Athe way except for the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it ou=
t again and=0Achecked the alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back i=
n, pushed,=0Ashoved and cursed. In the end we wound it on with long thre=
aded bolts.=0AI don=E2=80=99t want to put in another clutch. Ever. =0A=
=0A=094) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:- =0A=0A=09Initially, getting the c=
ar into any gear was very graunchy and really=0Athe car would have been=
 undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the same as=0Abefore but nothing was h=
appening except expensive noise. =0A=0A=09Although there was no evidence=
 of a loss of fluid =E2=80=93 why would there=0Abe? =E2=80=93 I bled the=
 clutch. I have fitted the extension tube so it=0Awasn=E2=80=99t tricky.=
 That did make a difference but not to the way it was=0Apreviously. =0A=
=0A=09So (1) Is it normal for clutches to be difficult at first? A sort=
 of=0A=E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=9D period?? =0A=0A=09(2) I=E2=80=99ll b=
leed it again but am drawn to getting a longer push rod=0Afor the slave=
 cylinder. Does that make sense? I do have to push the=0Apedal down pret=
ty far. Comments? =0A=0A=09(3) Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6diggi=
ng around in my files, I saw a=0Asuggestion to cut the head off the top=
 bolt that locates the slave=0Acylinder. Then to Loctite in permanently=
 for use as a dowel peg. ie=0Athat bolt is a bit of a PITA and one bolt=
 would suffice. Wouldn=E2=80=99t=0Ait?? =0A=0A=09All advice would be ver=
y welcome, =0A=0A=09Simon =0A=0A=09

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<html><body>Hopefully, you have the correct parts! In the early MKI/MKII=
 series cars there were several different clutch plates as well as a cou=
ple of different bell housings. There is one bell housing that does not=
 fit one of the clutch pressure plates and rubs (expensive noise you des=
cribe). Since you used your original bell, you should insure that you go=
t the correct PP.<div><br></div><div>It's real important, now-a-days, to=
 check that the parts removed IDENTICALLY match the ones that you are no=
w putting on. I don't trust any newly manufactured items unless the matc=
h the original.</div><div><br></div><div>After inserting the gearbox, pr=
operly aligned, you should only have to close up about 1/2" or less bell=
 to block with the proper original bolts.</div><div><br></div><div>One o=
ther thought, if you used the fingered/hung on TO pressure plate, it is=
 possible to damage it if you let the weight of the gearbox lay on it be=
fore it was fully home. If you used the standard spring unit that would=
 not be the issue. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div>=
<p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Simon Lachlan via=
 Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>To: "Healeys"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Sun=
day September 19 2021 1:24:33PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] New clutch query<b=
r><br>=0A<div class=3D"WordSection1">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You=E2=80=
=99ll recall the Overdrive saga. Have decided=0Anot to commission&nbsp;=
 a TV mini-series per someone=E2=80=99s advice.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">1) The overdrive is in and works very well. I=0Ahaven=E2=80=99t tes=
ted the pressure yet =E2=80=93 I will =E2=80=93 but it clicks in and out=
=0Avery briskly.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) The new clutch kit is i=
n. Hard to get the=0Aold bits off until I borrowed that magic tool. Used=
 the black=0Anylon(?) tool from AHSpares as so much handier than the spa=
re=0Aoriginal shaft.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) Putting the gearbox=
 back in was pretty=0Atedious. It would go in all the way except for the=
 last 3 or 4=0Ainches. Took it out again and checked the alignment was 1=
00% which=0Ait was. Put it back in, pushed, shoved and cursed. In the en=
d we=0Awound it on with long threaded bolts. I don=E2=80=99t want to put=
 in=0Aanother clutch. Ever.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">4) Now, finally=
, the QUESTIONS:-</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Initially, getting the ca=
r into any gear was=0Avery graunchy and really the car would have been u=
ndriveable. Pedal=0Apressure felt the same as before but nothing was hap=
pening except=0Aexpensive noise.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although t=
here was no evidence of a loss of=0Afluid =E2=80=93 why would there be?=
 =E2=80=93 I bled the clutch. I have fitted the=0Aextension tube so it w=
asn=E2=80=99t tricky. That did make a difference but=0Anot to the way it=
 was previously.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So (1) Is it normal for cl=
utches to be=0Adifficult at first? A sort of =E2=80=9Cbreaking-in=E2=80=
=9D period??</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(2) I=E2=80=99ll bleed it agai=
n but am drawn to=0Agetting a longer push rod for the slave cylinder. Do=
es that make=0Asense? I do have to push the pedal down pretty far. Comme=
nts?</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(3) Slightly off topic=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6digging around in my=0Afiles, I saw a suggestion to cut the head off=
 the top bolt that=0Alocates the slave cylinder. Then to Loctite in perm=
anently for use=0Aas a dowel peg. ie that bolt is a bit of a PITA and on=
e bolt would=0Asuffice. Wouldn=E2=80=99t it??</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">All advice would be very welcome,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A</healeys@autox.team.=
net></div></body></html>

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