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Subject: Re: [Healeys] New clutch query
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:49:06 -0700
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A couple random thoughts:

- do the special (read: expensive) 'dowel bolts' make a difference on 
installation? Anyone know the real purpose of these?

- what shape is your clutch M/C in?

Bob


On 9/19/2021 2:15 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys wrote:
> Simon--
>
> I cut the head off one bolt to make it easier to R&R the secondary 
> cylinder. I also fashioned a small door in the extension panel to give 
> access to the bleed nipple from inside rather than only under the car.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys 
>
>     Youâ??ll recall the Overdrive saga. Have decided not to commission 
>     a TV mini-series per someoneâ??s advice.
>
>     1) The overdrive is in and works very well. I havenâ??t tested the
>     pressure yet â?? I will â?? but it clicks in and out very briskly.
>
>     2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to get the old bits off until I
>     borrowed that magic tool. Used the black nylon(?) tool from
>     AHSpares as so much handier than the spare original shaft.
>
>     3) Putting the gearbox back in was pretty tedious. It would go in
>     all the way except for the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it out again
>     and checked the alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in,
>     pushed, shoved and cursed. In the end we wound it on with long
>     threaded bolts. I donâ??t want to put in another clutch. Ever.
>
>     4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-
>
>     Initially, getting the car into any gear was very graunchy and
>     really the car would have been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt
>     the same as before but nothing was happening except expensive noise.
>
>     Although there was no evidence of a loss of fluid â?? why would
>     there be? â?? I bled the clutch. I have fitted the extension tube so
>     it wasnâ??t tricky. That did make a difference but not to the way it
>     was previously.
>
>     So (1) Is it normal for clutches to be difficult at first? A sort
>     of â??breaking-inâ?? period??
>
>     (2) Iâ??ll bleed it again but am drawn to getting a longer push rod
>     for the slave cylinder. Does that make sense? I do have to push
>     the pedal down pretty far. Comments?
>
>     (3) Slightly off topic��digging around in my files, I saw a
>     suggestion to cut the head off the top bolt that locates the slave
>     cylinder. Then to Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg.
>     ie that bolt is a bit of a PITA and one bolt would suffice.
>     Wouldnâ??t it??
>
>     All advice would be very welcome,
>
>     Simon
>
>


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    A couple random thoughts:<br>
    <br>
    - do the special (read: expensive) 'dowel bolts' make a difference
    on installation? Anyone know the real purpose of these?<br>
    <br>
    - what shape is your clutch M/C in? <br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/19/2021 2:15 PM, Michael Oritt via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Simon--</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">I cut the head
          off one bolt to make it easier to R&amp;R the secondary
          cylinder. I also fashioned a small door in the extension panel
          to give access to the bleed nipple from inside rather than
          only under the car.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael
          Oritt</div>
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      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:23
          PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Youâ??ll recall the Overdrive saga.
                Have decided not to commission  a TV mini-series per
                someoneâ??s advice.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">1) The overdrive is in and works very
                well. I havenâ??t tested the pressure yet â?? I will â?? but
                it clicks in and out very briskly.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">2) The new clutch kit is in. Hard to
                get the old bits off until I borrowed that magic tool.
                Used the black nylon(?) tool from AHSpares as so much
                handier than the spare original shaft. </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">3) Putting the gearbox back in was
                pretty tedious. It would go in all the way except for
                the last 3 or 4 inches. Took it out again and checked
                the alignment was 100% which it was. Put it back in,
                pushed, shoved and cursed. In the end we wound it on
                with long threaded bolts. I donâ??t want to put in another
                clutch. Ever.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">4) Now, finally, the QUESTIONS:-</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Initially, getting the car into any
                gear was very graunchy and really the car would have
                been undriveable. Pedal pressure felt the same as before
                but nothing was happening except expensive noise. </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Although there was no evidence of a
                loss of fluid â?? why would there be? â?? I bled the clutch.
                I have fitted the extension tube so it wasnâ??t tricky.
                That did make a difference but not to the way it was
                previously.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">So (1) Is it normal for clutches to
                be difficult at first? A sort of â??breaking-inâ?? period??</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">(2) Iâ??ll bleed it again but am drawn
                to getting a longer push rod for the slave cylinder.
                Does that make sense? I do have to push the pedal down
                pretty far. Comments?</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">(3) Slightly off topic��digging
                around in my files, I saw a suggestion to cut the head
                off the top bolt that locates the slave cylinder. Then
                to Loctite in permanently for use as a dowel peg. ie
                that bolt is a bit of a PITA and one bolt would suffice.
                Wouldnâ??t it?? </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">All advice would be very welcome,</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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