George.... most of us are glad to have some new topics.... so ask away...
I think the Pictures are fine.... No one is going to hammer you until it
sets a record.... then in Impound there will be some M/S folks look at
it.... but even then they would have to put up the money to protest
it....in your case the car is common enough most of us could tell if it's
been altered .
Same with the Bugeye.... Doug and I will have Identical cars from the
Cowl/doors? back..... after that it's up to our imagination....
With your skills this oughta be a nice car... Looking forward to seeing it
at Maxton.... Keith
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> From: George Mitchell <americanpartner@yahoo.com>
> To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>; John Beckett
<landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: /MS rules
> Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 10:00 AM
>
>
> I hope that I am not asking questions that might be
> obvious to everyone else..
> Are pictures of the of the stock vehicle,fenders on /
> off sufficient for documentation? This will be an
> issue with this car because it has almost a foot in
> the cowl. The firewall is waaaay out there because the
> cabin is small( more room for your feet)
> I can take pictures of the car with the front clip off
> with a measuring device in the picture to prove it
> hasn't been altered.
> George in DC
> --- Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com> wrote:
> > The body must remain stock from the FIREWALL back.
> > Doors back is too far,
> > can't mod the cowl area. Each vehicle is different
> > though, the doors might
> > be at the firewall on the 924. I don't pretend to
> > know every car ever made,
> > that's why I need documentation in impound.
> >
> > Dan W
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > To: George Mitchell <americanpartner@yahoo.com>; Dan
> > Warner
> > <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:12 AM
> > Subject: /MS rules
> >
> >
> > > George
> > >
> > > I believe its like /CC. You can modify the front
> > end in /MS as long as the
> > > body is original from the doors back. Might as
> > well stretch it to 130"
> > > WB...to improve handling, and chop the top...to
> > improve frontal area,
> > while
> > > your at it.
> > >
> > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George Mitchell"
> > <americanpartner@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Dan Warner"
> > <dwarner@electrorent.com>;
> > > "Richard Kensicki" <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:54 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey list,
> > > > It sounds like I picked the right class. Lots of
> > > > competition. Still waiting on the rule book
> > but...
> > > > The Porsche body that I am building is a '78.
> > It has
> > > > what can only be described as sort of a "dirty"
> > nose
> > > > there is a plastic bumper out there and a lower
> > > > valance that would surely put air underneath the
> > car
> > > > at speed.
> > > > I could update the front with parts that I have
> > for
> > > > the later Euro Turbo car ('85) which has a
> > hidden
> > > > bumper and more of a scoopped or staight
> > appearance
> > > > (think Nascar front end).
> > > > With the liberal aero rules in M/S would this
> > > > "updating" be legal? This would be easier for me
> > and
> > > > the modification would be quick and have
> > somewhat
> > > > proven aero.
> > > > George in DC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yep Dan..... John Rains didn't ruin
> > D/B/Galt.... he
> > > > > simply moved the record
> > > > > out of my pocket book.... I don't have to have
> > his
> > > > > car to go that fast... I
> > > > > got to have his MOTOR.... and sans that....
> > Might as
> > > > > well build a MS... and
> > > > > Have at it... I am not building a Berkley...
> > I am
> > > > > going to build a
> > > > > Bugeye... little bigger but not enough that a
> > little
> > > > > HP won't make up for
> > > > > it....
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at Doug Odom.... his Bugeye just got in
> > the Two
> > > > > Club....K
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > > > To: Richard Kensicki
> > <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > > > > Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > > > > > Date: Monday, February 14, 2000 7:15 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The answer to your question re: the Benham &
> > Carr
> > > > > Berkley on the 2000
> > > > > > rulebook cover is easy. The M/S class is
> > > > > currently/probably the class
> > > > > most
> > > > > > open for innovation. A small base vehicle
> > which
> > > > > was sold as a sports car,
> > > > > > 130" wb, any frame, and liberal aero make
> > for some
> > > > > strange bed fellows.
> > > > > > Engine size aside, as long as an entrant can
> > > > > provide documentation as to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > availability of the base car and the stock
> > > > > dimensions so that impound can
> > > > > > verify the legality of the car, that would
> > make
> > > > > Leonard Carr's car (no
> > > > > pun
> > > > > > intended) one of the best choices for class.
> > As in
> > > > > the past the uproar
> > > > > that
> > > > > > this vehicle has destroyed the class
> > "everyone has
> > > > > to have one" is in the
> > > > > > wind. When Ron Benham first brought out his
> > Monza
> > > > > then the Crosley that
> > > > > Earl
> > > > > > Wooden currently runs the cry was the same.
> > As you
> > > > > can see other racers
> > > > > have
> > > > > > found ways to compete and set records in
> > various
> > > > > classes against these
> > > > > cars
> > > > > > without using the body dujour.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What are your questions regarding the
> > legality of
> > > > > the Berkley? Maybe I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan W
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Richard Kensicki
> > <richk@sparta-junction.com>
> > > > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 4:26 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Thanks for Opel GT Input
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for all the replies about a
> > possible Opel
> > > > > GT for the mile. Are
> > > > > > > there any pictures of Bill Ward's Opel on
> > line?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I keep rereading the rule book section for
> > > > > modified sports and then
> > > > > look
> > > > > > > at the rule book cover (2000 edition) and
> > say
> > > > > (not out loud) how does
> > > > > > > that car run as B modified sports? I must
> > be too
> > > > > legalistic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rich
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> Do You Yahoo!?
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