Chris and Joe,
The comments really are not so far off of the LSR subject.
Regarding the oxygenated gas:
Is it legal in the "GAS" classes, or does it's oxygen content push it into
the "FUEL" classes with other oxygenated stuff like nitro and the alcohols ?
What is wrong with the oxygenated gas, intuitively it would appear that if
you run it richer than straight gas (to compensate for the missing gas
displaced by the oxygen, and to provide gas to burn the added oxygen) it
would generate a bit more HP (although that was not the intent of the
bureaucrats!)
Regarding the ethanol:
What's wrong with ethanol (other that it has less oxygen than methanol)? It
has more oxygen than straight gas, and if the motor is re-tuned to leverage
the higher knock rating with more compression and/or advance, and a richer
mixture to leverage the oxygen, it seams that it should produce more power
as well (at least compared to gasoline, in a fuel class ethanol is clearly
less potent than methanol)
Yeah, I know it's corrosive, but you need something to fix in the garage in
the winter!
While we are discussing oxygenated fuels, has anyone found a way to burn
hydrogen peroxide in an internal combustion engine ? It seems to be the fuel
of choice for rockets, and with an oxygen content that humbles nitromethane
it looks like a lot of fun. It must have terrible knock characteristics or
someone would be doing it.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris R Harris" <yesford@clear.net.nz>
To: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Cc: "land-speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Halon
> Joe,
> very interesting to read your comments, while a little off the LSR
> subject, good health is important to everyone. I certainly wasn't aware of
> ozone holes in times pre man made releases of CFC's. Your brief remark
> concerning the chemicals used to substitute lead in gasoline I know a
bunch
> about. Talk about bureaucratic BS. Here in NZ in the governments rush to
> stay aligned to the 'clean green' image and general International
movement,
> lead in gas was removed about 5 years ago. The non leaded product now
> available is in 2 octane ratings, 91 and premium 96. The premium 96
> contains 49% aromatics added to the base fuel. These so called aromatics
> are toluene and the like. The resultant combustion of these aromatics
gives
> an exhaust conservatively 100 times more toxic ( contains carcinogens )
> than those from the now replaced old leaded gas. I believe there has never
> been a proven case of death due directly to lead in gasoline in the past
> anyway.
>
> Chris Harris. NZ.
>
> ----------
> > From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > To: Chris R Harris <yesford@clear.net.nz>
> > Cc: land-speed <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: Halon
> > Date: Saturday, May 13, 2000 4:07 PM
> >
> > I can send you some, as there IS a problem of an enlarged hole in the
> ozone,
> > Not convinced though that it is from CFC's and alot of data supports
> this, many
> > larger holes have existed long before man according to the science
world,
> due
> > to much more powerful natuaral phenomena. I also do not believe in the
> sins of
> > leaded fuel, or in the usefulness of oxygenated fuel, or ethanol, all
> have an
> > amazing amount of true logical science against them, but cannot
overcome
> the
> > bureaucratic bevy of bs.
> > How is that for opening a can of worms, and another thing the
non-cfc
> brake
> > cleaner I used when assembling the top end of my bike, caused an iron
> toxicity
> > for me and my crew as we inhaled a mother load of rust after removing
the
> valve
> > cover at tech at Bonn., from the miracle ingredient of H20 that was used
> in the
> > "new stuff", the cams looked like they sat out in the rain in SoCal for
> > years. I cant help it, I just let it out, welcoming educational
> > banter Joe :) :)
> >
> > Chris R Harris wrote:
> >
> > > Just a quickie on the Halon subject team. Its being banned or phased
> out
> > > because it is ozone depleting. Not to much of a worry in the northern
> > > hemisphere, but down here in New Zealand and Australia where the major
> > > ozone depletion problem manifests itself as a huge hole in the ozone
> layer
> > > and getting bigger every year letting in ultra violet sunlight, it is
> > > having a very real effect on people's health. A week out in the sun at
> > > Bonneville is not a great problem taking the usual precautions. Two
> full
> > > days of exposure down here will burn the skin right off you without
> > > protection.
> > >
> > > I had a real battle importing my onboard fire system which is the new
> > > Coldfire 302. Had to produce the reports on all aspects of the product
> > > before it was accepted. It is an excellent product and environmentally
> very
> > > safe.
> > >
> > > Would all Halon users please send me a hat and burn cream with each
> refill.
> > >
> > > Chris Harris. New Zealand.
> >
> >
> >
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