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Re: cooling

To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>,
Subject: Re: cooling
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:13:28 -0400
Now here is an interesting bit of info: A good standard water pump flows
about 100 gpm, a NASCAR pump flows 180 gpm. The best electric pump I have
found flows only about 30 gpm.
So now if your flow starts off at thirty gpm it ain't gonna be anywhere near
close to the 35 gpm needed at the exit point.

John Beckett, LSR #79,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; "Land Speed List"
<land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: cooling


> On your Recommendation I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Carl
> Adams... of Adams Pumps..
>
> Carl is a LSR fan... and a Nascar Cooling specialist... it was a
fascinating
> conversation and I look forward to hanging out with him on the 28th....
>
> He was saying what we needed was a Minimum of 35 gallons of Flow per
Minute
> and that the Water Must in fact Flow through all the Block.. not just the
> Front... Back cylinders are often stagnant....  He was a BIG FAN of
> Thermostats.... saying they need to be VERY HIGH.... like 190 or so.... he
> wanted the Water Temp to be in the 210 range to Make Power... saying there
> was 80hp difference in one of his applications between 160 and 210
> degrees...
>
> His other Big Comment was that the Pump needed to be Measured not at the
> Pump but through the Block.... at the outlet.... anything else is just
> guessing at what the actual flow through the restrictions really is...
>
> I can't remember all the conversation but like you John... I was very
> impressed with the guys knowledge of Cooling.
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> To: "Land Speed List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:14 AM
> Subject: cooling
>
>
> > OK, thought I would give Keith a break and start a new thread.
> >
> > My big question is how important is the cooling system to HP? and
> longevity?
> >
> > Have had several problems with melted pistons over the years. And I
> thought
> > they were due to none cooling related problems (probably were). But now
I
> > wonder if the cooling system was of a better design whether the pistons
> > would have ultimately melted (or at least melted as quickly).
> >
> > So (on a SB Chevy) how much water flow (gpm) is required for proper
> cooling?
> > Can you have to much flow?
> >
> > What's the preferred pump: belt driven or electric? How much HP does a
> belt
> > driven pump use vs. an alternator to drive all the electrical
accessories.
> >
> > Should you run a thermostat? and at what temp? or just a restrictor?
> >
> > Is it better to design a LSR cooling system based on Drag Racing or
> NASCAR?
> >
> > What's up with reverse flow systems? don't see many in grass roots
racing.
> >
> > John Beckett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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