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To: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
Subject: Re: List Imput
From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:53:55 -0700
Hey, dont hog all that info sharing on the land line, please expose us to the
commentary if possible, I love this stuff, I need to see these case studies to
facilitate my knowledge base Thanks Dave D. and Rick B.      Joe

dahlgren wrote:

> 80PPH total on gas  is like 185 hp or so...are these sea level #'s... 80
> PPH /injector and 80% duty cycle is about 568 hp.. N/A ??? The turbo
> engine could get by with 4 96 lb/hr injectors.. Bet it would have helped
> a bunch at low speed. We need to chat sometime when you have a minute..
> We run 43 lbs/hr injectors in the Cosworth 2 liter and it makes 304 hp
> N/A with fuel to spare... I am getting totally lost in this one.. Would
> be more than glad to help out but having a problem figuring out what is
> going on with your fueling...
> The # is 860-536-6125
> Dahlgren
>
> Rick Byrnes wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > To: "Rick Byrnes" <rick@rbmotorsports.com>
> >
> > > to start with why so big on the injectors????? 360 lbs/hr for a 2
> > > liter.N/A engine..Geez that's enough for 800 or so HP
> >
> > Actually on gasoline the 160 PPH is what I had to have for injector flow for
> > my turbo application.  (we measured 600 HP at the rear wheels) The N/A motor
> > uses 80 PPH on gasoline and I figured that alky requires twice the
> > volume/wf.  Consider that my calibration guy wants duty cycles of less than
> > 80%.  The turbo calibration was terrible below 3000 RPM because we could not
> > control very well.  An ideal situation would be 2  50 PPH injectors per
> > bore, run at 70 psig,+boost.  I have run at 40psig + boost.  With the N/A
> > engine we are just learning.  This is the first race motor that I have not
> > had a turbo to help things out.
> >
> > .....More power with alky?? from where other than a couple of percent of
> > O2..but the ERC has some too for a 'blending agent'...Octane is similar
> > too..so where might all this power come from..Not that much from the latent
> > heat thing...
> >
> > Thats why I asked the question.  I need some input from people that have run
> > both fuels in the same motor.
> > I have heard a number of statements like yours that there may be no
> > improvement.  Depends on how well we used the ERC fuel we have been running.
> > Since I have reservations about running 17.5:1 at sea level (dyno and
> > Maxton) a switch to alky might be in order.  I need to have a conversation
> > with Rick Gold.
> >
> > Thanks for your thoughts
> > Keep them coming.
> >
> > Rick

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