Tom I am waiting on Carrillos.
I related my two experiences earlier, purely as a means to keep unknowing folks
alerted. From 93 to this year, in the bike classes they changed 1300cc to
1350cc, then after many made changes to get in the 1350 class they ADDED the
1650cc in between the old 2000cc class, now even the classes listed are defunct
as they are essentially the listed cc + a 0.020 overbore
Joe
Tom Neimeyer wrote:
> Joe & All,
> I am entering into "lakester" project. It will not be completed until
> Speedweek 2002 (soonest). I would hate to have them change the minimums
> after a lot of money and time have been spent. From the stories being
> related, it is possible and quite worrysome.
>
> Joe, got the bike back together?
>
> Regards, Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> Cc: <SaltyCuda@aol.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: 200 Club Minimums
>
> > It definately PAYS to inquire with the rules committee before nearly ANY
> change
> > to your vehicle, a few years ago the motorcycle engine classes went from
> > 1300cc, followed by 2000cc, and I had a 1327cc which meant I ran in the
> 2000cc
> > class, we spent an arm and a leg to by a new aftermarket block and pistons
> > (couldnt sleeve this block down with what was available) to get my
> displacement
> > 30cc lower, came to Bonneville with a 1297cc to run in the 1300cc class
> and they
> > said guess what we changed the class to 1350cc. I attended a rules
> meeting 2
> > years ago in which overbore was discussed, the vintage engines were
> allowed .050
> > overbore, I asked why I could not and was STERNLY informed that that is
> what I
> > get for running a bike who's stock displacement is so close to the class
> limit,
> > we are running in the 1000cc class and stock displacement is 998cc meaning
> that
> > I cannot even run a well worn stock cylinder, so I again had to pay an arm
> and a
> > leg to have JE make custom stock bore pistons (they only shelf overbore
> pistons)
> > and I show up this year at Bonneville and they say guess what we changed
> the
> > rules so all classes except Prod. can run .020 beyond that which provides
> > maximum displacement for the class, I was so thrilled, Guess I will be
> making
> > many more calls to the tech people before I make changes or spend lots of
> money,
> > even if I think I have a grasp of what I think are the current rules
> > Joe :)
> >
> > John Beckett wrote:
> >
> > > Well I'm not trying to change any of them. Just trying to find out what
> some
> > > of the new ones are. But I sure don't like the idea. Guess my big beef
> is
> > > that they were never brought up to the general membership before being
> > > inacted.
> > >
> > > John Beckett
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <SaltyCuda@aol.com>
> > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 10:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: 200 Club Minimums
> > >
> > > > All I want to say about minimums is once they have been set, don't
> revise
> > > > them. We put our A motor on the engine stand, build a B motor because
> the
> > > > minimum was lower in B than the record in A. However, the 2-club
> board
> > > > revised the minimums, increasing the B minimum to about 5 mph higher
> than
> > > the
> > > > A record. We weren't aware of the change until we were on the salt,
> in
> > > line
> > > > for our qualification attempt. We went on to set a record in the
> class,
> > > but
> > > > did not exceed the new minimum. We would have been better off just
> > > > freshening up our A motor.
> > > >
> > > > So if you set them don't change them.
> > > >
> > > > Jim (frustrated with the system) Snyder.
> > > >
> > > > PS I got into the club in 1990, AA/Alt class. Long before minimums,
> in
> > > fact
> > > > we had to do it three times to get a record back then. Qualify by
> > > exceeding
> > > > the record, then the next day at 7:00 a.m. all the previous day's
> > > qualifiers,
> > > > made a run down the course and back within an hour or so, to get the
> two
> > > way
> > > > average. The attempt with the B motor was in '96 with my partner at
> the
> > > > wheel, Phil Grisotti.
> > > >
> > > > J
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