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Re: welding/metal work

To: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Subject: Re: welding/metal work
From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:21:57 -0800
Dave,

How about using the new picture post to show an example of your handiwork?

Dan W

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
Cc: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Skip & Joyce Higginbotham
<saltrat@pro-blend.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: welding/metal work


> I suspect most on this list think I sit around all day
> thinking of ways to be controversial.. Works for me right
> now. What I do is something most here have little interest
> in as it is very expensive. Will just say that I have done
> design work and prototype work for a lot of cars that win in
> almost any venue you might want to pick other than F1 and
> Indy. Not that I can't just the plate is full right now.
> Thre slides I design are not new in theory, but in practice
> are quite a bit different than what most might imagine at
> times. make them for a whole bunch of different engines and
> venues. They are the best and the price reflects it
> unfortunately. A typical setup for a yates Ford or a 18
> degree chevey is about 8k so something i suspect no one here
> is interested in. Lsr racing is a hobby for me although I
> approach it with the same attitude I have when involved with
> pro efforts. To be candid I am sure anything that has been
> done once has beeen done more than once with varing degrees
> of sucess, so the is very little new, just done better at
> times. In LSR did design work on 2 cars to date with a free
> hand as to what to do an how to do it. 2 cars 3 records all
> 'off the trailer'. Both guys 2 club members. But it was just
> fooling around to be honest.  Working on a little plan to
> hit the F class records all 8 in the special construction
> category. need right now to have the chassis guys work on
> the 'Lakester/Streamliner' morphing kit so it can run in
> both during the same event. I am doing the engine stuff
> right now. Using current technology it will be 1100 hp in
> F/BF  850 in F/BG  600 in F/F and 400 in F/G  The car
> builder wants to run the N/A stuff to start I am wanting to
> right to the blown stuff and be done with it.  And for all
> the cost conscious out there it will be a low dollar deal
> using a production based engine sort of.. Well they come in
> a car you can buy in the US anyway. ran a similar engine
> yesterday. made 810 at 7800 on gas and 20 lbs of boost. real
> mild deal would have had another 200 if they let me turn it
> up a bit and add the next 10 lbs of boost but it did what it
> had to do and will run all day long.
>
> Time for me to go make a few chips for the pro guys so i can
> get some play time on my stuff.
> Dave
>
> Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > Yeah Dave... I hear you.... I was discussing your latest Slide throttle
set
> > up with Brad yesterday ... Still don't think I got it right..  Your
> > whittling skills go way beyond normalcy.... but you make a living at
it....
> > I expect that quality of work!!!  It's the design concepts which are so
damn
> > stunning....
> >
> > I bet most folks here on the List don't really understand what you do
> > Dave.... take a sec and explain what a Slide throttle is and does....
how
> > you got involved with it....
> >
> > Keith ( I understand your desire not to go into the Teams you tune for
.....
> > Trust me I understand that the Land speed racing thing really is a
Hobby)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
> > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > Cc: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham"
> > <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: welding/metal work
> >
> > > I have made a couple of metal chips LOL..
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Practice your Gas welding skills... cause that Tig is just about
like it
> > > > only better...
> > > >
> > > > Metal work.... Just curious how many of you are into Metal work?  I
was
> > > > Talking to Joe the other day when I ordered my master cut off....
> > Anyway
> > > > he was talking about a Motorized Bead roller and I think he has an
> > English
> > > > Wheel....  Who else out there is into the Metal smithing side of
this?
> > > >
> > > > I'm not.... I am just fascinated with the skills of a fabricator...
> > someone
> > > > who can design something in his head or on paper and come up with it
as
> > a
> > > > REAL usefull product....
> > > >
> > > > Keith ( yep I was wrong then I admitted it.. then I followed through
> > with my
> > > > own advice...hmmm )
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>;
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Roll cage welding
> > > >
> > > > > After all the input on welding, I was starting to
> > > > > get very leary of my own welding.  I certainly
> > > > > can't pass up an offer like this.  Skip, it'll be
> > > > > late summer, or even next fall, but I'll be
> > > > > calling on you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Dick J
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Skip & Joyce Higginbotham
> > > > > <saltrat@pro-blend.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Dick,
> > > > > > Rather than stick weld them I'd rather you
> > > > > > brought the car over here to
> > > > > > Bastrop and I'll TIG the cage for you.......or
> > > > > > show you how to do it.
> > > > > > Skip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:03 AM 1/17/01 , you wrote:
> > > > > > >That's what I was looking for.  Somebody who
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > >running with older technology welding.  I've
> > > > > > got
> > > > > > >all the tubes on my roadster cage bent and
> > > > > > tacked
> > > > > > >in place.  I would have to take a long day and
> > > > > > >drive nearly five hundred miles to get the guy
> > > > > > >who started the thing for me to finish weld
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > >I've been leaning towards just running the
> > > > > > beads
> > > > > > >myself with my buzz box. I keep thinking:
> > > > > > "This
> > > > > > >ain't no 200 mph car.  It's prolly not even
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > >to see 150."  The rules only require a roll
> > > > > > bar,
> > > > > > >so the cage is just frosting (the kind I like
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > >-safety stuff).  I dunno, I'll lay down some
> > > > > > >practice beads in the spring - if they look
> > > > > > good,
> > > > > > >I'll go after the roll cage.  If they look
> > > > > > >crappy, I'll pack a picnic lunch and make the
> > > > > > >drive to south Louisiana.  Could take another
> > > > > > >look at Phil Landry's car anyhow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--- Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Dick; My Vega cage was done with my buzz box
> > > > > > >> and looks OK to me. But I
> > > > > > >> haven't tested it yet and hope not to. Rich
> > > > > > Fox
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > >> To: The Butters Family <bbutters@dmi.net>;
> > > > > > >> ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
> > > > > > >> <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> > > > > > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > > >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 02:40 PM
> > > > > > >> Subject: List Police - Back to LSR !
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >Let's not beat the poor guy to death.  I'm
> > > > > > >> sure
> > > > > > >> >that by now he get's the idea that the post
> > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > >> >inappropriate.  He is into LSR, and we are
> > > > > > >> into
> > > > > > >> >LSR, so let's drop all of this and get back
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> >LSR.  I don't think there are many among us
> > > > > > >> who
> > > > > > >> >haven't made some off-color remark, at some
> > > > > > >> time
> > > > > > >> >in our life, only to realize a second too
> > > > > > >> late,
> > > > > > >> >that a wife, preacher, teacher, or somebody
> > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > >> >present to make our face turn red and wish
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >> >could hide under a rock.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >So, about this welding stuff.  Back in the
> > > > > > >> olden
> > > > > > >> >days, were roll cages and chassis welded up
> > > > > > >> more
> > > > > > >> >with gas welding, or with buzz boxes?
> > > > > > i.e.,
> > > > > > >> >since it ain't gonna be mig or tig, which
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> my
> > > > > > >> >antiquated devices should I be using for
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > >> >kind of work?  I personally like working
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> >torch, I can melt that stuff right to the
> > > > > > >> point
> > > > > > >> >of burning through, then start feeding rod.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> With
> > > > > > >> >the buzz box, I sometimes burn holes, then
> > > > > > >> have
> > > > > > >> >to get the torch out and start melting in
> > > > > > >> order
> > > > > > >> >to fill them back up.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >=====
> > > > > > >> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > >> >*         Dick J          *
> > > > > > >> >*    (In East Texas)      *
> > > > > > >> >*         # 729           *
> > > > > > >> >*     C/GRS   E/STR       *
> > > > > > >> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > >> >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo!
> > > > > > Mail.
> > > > > > >> >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >=====
> > > > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > >*         Dick J          *
> > > > > > >*    (In East Texas)      *
> > > > > > >*         # 729           *
> > > > > > >*     C/GRS   E/STR       *
> > > > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> > > > > >
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