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Re: Speed Week concerns

To: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Speed Week concerns
From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:51:51 -0500
oh yeah, I see what it is I said, sorry, that was NOT the point I was 
trying to make. I do apologize. my point was that the Tech guys would be 
the place to ask questions concerning a safety issue. again, I'm sorry if I 
offended anyone.
         uhh, 'bout the sig, where else am I gonna brag about what I have 
done at the Salt? I'm proud of the effort it took, and the results too. I 
had a lot of help.


At 09:20 AM 8/30/01, you wrote:
>perfect way to make friends and influence people... And it has been said i 
>have
>been rude.. A bunch of yahwho's?? me thinks you need to look at your 
>little sig
>file at the end of your messages before you use the 'think they know-it all'
>comment about other people..
>
>Another brainless fool doing the best i can ......
>
>john robinson wrote:
> >
> > Howdy,
> >          Actually I thought that the tech guys would be THE place to ask. I
> > would rather have correct answers from the guys who should know and would
> > holler if I am doing something that is unsafe, then an answer from a yahwho
> > who think he knows it all...
> >          I just got Tom Murphy's book on LSR motorcycles, yeah I can relate
> > to your thoughts on streamlined bikes........he is a nice guy, met him
> > while at the Salt this year....
> >
> > At 09:46 PM 8/29/01, you wrote:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >  A couple things I would like to add here ( remember I know nothing )
> > >but the comment, " I am not able to see forward" that is something you
> > >should keep to
> > >yourself tech guys dont like to hear that kinda talk. I would say if you
> > >have a
> > >problem seeing you need to modify something so you can. (Im not trying to
> > >be ignorant
> > >even though it sounds like it)
> > >The center line was the oil slick I would beleive. Dont know what else one
> > >could want.
> > >Or explain center line, I thought it was dead in the middle myself.
> > >As for your generator problem I can relate. The ECTA guys were very kind
> > >in marking a
> > >pit area for Landracing.com (Joe Amo, Jon Amo) and Mountain States
> > >Automation that was
> > >VERY clearly marked and to my suprise I went back and some racer took both
> > >the pits
> > >that were marked for us. When I confronted them they said OO I didnt know
> > >they were
> > >marked, the lettering was abount 2 feet high and however long the two pits
> > >were. I was
> > >pretty pissed, how ignorant could one be. But you know what there is alot
> > >of salty
> > >pits there. I just found another one. So moral of the story there are
> > >plenty of other
> > >awesome racers you can pit next too. But he in return is correct he can
> > >run it as long
> > >as he wants, but really hard to make friends that way, His loss cause Im
> > >sure you are
> > >a great person.
> > >Just my two cents, and you cant buy much with that anymore.
> > >
> > >Jonathan Amo (who knows nothing, thinking of a wierd motorcycle
> > >streamliner body,
> > >again I know nothing.)
> > >
> > >
> > >john robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Howdy,
> > > >         I have a couple of concerns about running at Speedweek this
> > > year. I ran
> > > > a motorcycle, did OK with it (actually set a record but it lasted 
> only one
> > > > day), but did have a problem with running on the Salt that other 
> motorcycle
> > > > riders also have.
> > > >         There is no center line to run on.
> > > >         My bike is a vintage racer, and when I drop behind the fairing,
> > > I am not
> > > > able to see forward.  As this is the first time I ran a bike at the 
> Salt, I
> > > > asked other bikers how they did it, including the guys in Tech. 
> Mostly, the
> > > > answer was to have a slightly loose helmet that you shove up on your
> > > > forehead, and try to look at the line on the side of the track and 
> follow
> > > > it. Some of the other riders remember when they had a center line 
> to run
> > > > on, and commented that it felt safer running with it.
> > > >         I don't know when the centerline was removed, but for the
> > > safety of the
> > > > riders, feel that it should be brought back.
> > > >         One of the reasons I heard (that the center line was removed)
> > > was that the
> > > > environmental (I did have a comment here, but deleted it ) concern 
> was of
> > > > putting used oil into the environment at the Salt. I do understand 
> this,
> > > > but feel that the safety of the riders would be a higher concern 
> than the
> > > > amount of used motor oil poured on the salt. ( I >think< you are still
> > > > using used motor oil, please correct me if I am wrong), and if the 
> marker
> > > > is a benign coloring agent, what is the reason for not having a center
> > > line?
> > > >         Another concern I had was the running of generators. I was in
> > > an area that
> > > > had a guy running his generator, ( an older B&S engined genset, one of
> > > > those with a louder muffler and the usual B&S rattle) about 70% of 
> the day.
> > > > It was irritating, and even though several of the surrounding pits 
> asked
> > > > for a reduction of run time, the gentleman in question said, in 
> effect, I
> > > > can run this if I want to.
> > > >          I did not bring my genset to the salt this year, but have in
> > > other years,
> > > > and attempt to run it only as little as I can, mostly for charging the
> > > > racecar battery, and so do understand his position. Maybe gensets 
> could be
> > > > relegated to the perimeter of the pits, at least those that have longer
> > > > runtimes? I'll bet I am not the first with this concern, and would 
> also bet
> > > > much wrangling has gone on about it.
> > > >          Anyway, I thought this years' SpeedWeek went very well, and
> > > wish to thank
> > > > everyone involved in its creation. Thanks a lot, drive careful
> > > >
> > > >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> > > >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> > > >                  1513 University Ave.
> > > >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> > > >                      608-262-3606
> > > >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> > > >         Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> > > >                  Bonneville Salt Flats
> > > >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> > > >                    131.333 MPH set 1995
> > > >                    136.666 MPH set 1996
> > > >                    140.292 MPH set 2000
> > > >                    144.396 MPH set 2000
> > > >         MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor 
> 441                     Motorcycle
> > > >                     95.193 MPH set 2001
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> >                  1513 University Ave.
> >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> >                      608-262-3606
> >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> >         Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> >                  Bonneville Salt Flats
> >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> >                    131.333 MPH set 1995
> >                    136.666 MPH set 1996
> >                    140.292 MPH set 2000
> >                    144.396 MPH set 2000
> >      MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
> >                     95.193 MPH set 2001
> >


              John Robinson, Mechanician
   Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
                 1513 University Ave.
                  Madison, Wi. 53706
                     608-262-3606
                   FAX 608-265-2316
        Current World Land Speed Record Holder
                 Bonneville Salt Flats
            H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
                   131.333 MPH set 1995
                   136.666 MPH set 1996
                   140.292 MPH set 2000
                   144.396 MPH set 2000
     MPS-PG 441 c.c. 1967 BSA Victor Motorcycle
                    95.193 MPH set 2001

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