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Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments

To: ddahlgren@snet.net, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments
From: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing <saltrat@pro-blend.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:23:35 -0600
AAHHH....the discussion WAS on the subject of FIRE WARNING. 
Skip



At 11:17 AM 10/31/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Wouldn't common sense tell you that if there is a fire than you have to assume
>the electric stuff is all dead???
>I would have to also believe that a mechanical linkage or actuator would be
>mandatory for the same reason or if not at least for personal safety...
>
>Dave Dahlgren
>
>"Albaugh, Neil" wrote:
>> 
>> The automatic actuation can be through a latching relay; once on it stays
>> on.
>> 
>> Regards,  Neil  Tucson, AZ
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:11 PM
>> To: landspeedracer; Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments
>> 
>> And once you activate the switch it will stay on.
>> Skip
>> 
>> At 05:24 PM 10/30/01 -0500, landspeedracer wrote:
>> >Remember Guys, with on/off switches or valves, as per the SCTA rule book:
>> >"The valves shall be designed to remain open once actuated."
>> >
>> >John B.
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>
>> >To: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:08 AM
>> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
>> >
>> >
>> >> Neil,
>> >> The problem with resistance wire systems is false alarms.......not a good
>> >> idea at 300 MPH +. Too hard on the heart! And IR systems are a little
>> >> pricey for me.
>> >> Auto fire extinguishing is OK if you don't want to control the
>> >extinguisher
>> >> manually. I do. I feel like I can turn on the fire bottles until the fire
>> >> is out and if I'm not stopped yet, I can turn off the fire bottles and
>> >save
>> >> the agent for later in the shut-down if the fire relights or was not out
>> >to
>> >> begin with. Also manual control might let me breathe in the small
>> >> cockpit!!! Too subtile?
>> >> Hard to reason with a fire that is behind you though!!! Auto system might
>> >> be the best in the long run. I worry about false actuation.......
>> >> Skip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 09:50 AM 10/30/01 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >Skip;
>> >> >
>> >> >That's a good idea. You could probably wire that into a solenoid-
>> >operated
>> >> >valve to actuate the fire bottles automatically, too.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've seen some aircraft fire detection systems that are based on a wire
>> >that
>> >> >changes resistance. Some of the newer flame detectors sense ultraviolet
>> >> >radiation so they aren't confused by IR heat radiation from the
>> >collectors
>> >> >or other hot spots.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
>> >> >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:54 PM
>> >> >To: Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> >> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Neil,
>> >> >I have a fire detection system in the liner/lakester. Turns a bright red
>> >> >light on in the cockpit. No false alarms yet.
>> >> >Skip

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