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RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments

To: "'ddahlgren@snet.net'" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
From: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:27:09 -0600
Dave;

Not necessarily. It depends on where you place the wiring and small backup
battery. Think of a fire suppression system as a critical system on a
fighter that must survive battle damage-- redundency and routing systems
through less- vulnerable areas certainly helps. The routing of hydraulic
(brake) lines, chute release lines and critical electrical wiring, etc. all
need to be carefully thought out with an eye toward where a fire is most
likely to occur and where it will do the most damage at speed. Things like
fire sleeves can help lines survive for a bit longer than if they are bare.

When all is said & done, I agree with you-- I'd still like to have the
option of a manually- operated mechanical linkage to actuate my fire-
suppression system but it would be in addition to the automatic system. As
they say, "Simplicity is Golden; complexity for it's own sake is a pain..."

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Dahlgren [mailto:ddahlgren@snet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Albaugh, Neil
Cc: 'Higginbotham Land Speed Racing'; landspeedracer;
land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments


Wouldn't common sense tell you that if there is a fire than you have to
assume
the electric stuff is all dead???
I would have to also believe that a mechanical linkage or actuator would be
mandatory for the same reason or if not at least for personal safety...

Dave Dahlgren

"Albaugh, Neil" wrote:
> 
> The automatic actuation can be through a latching relay; once on it stays
> on.
> 
> Regards,  Neil  Tucson, AZ
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:11 PM
> To: landspeedracer; Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> 
> And once you activate the switch it will stay on.
> Skip
> 
> At 05:24 PM 10/30/01 -0500, landspeedracer wrote:
> >Remember Guys, with on/off switches or valves, as per the SCTA rule book:
> >"The valves shall be designed to remain open once actuated."
> >
> >John B.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>
> >To: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:08 AM
> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> >
> >
> >> Neil,
> >> The problem with resistance wire systems is false alarms.......not a
good
> >> idea at 300 MPH +. Too hard on the heart! And IR systems are a little
> >> pricey for me.
> >> Auto fire extinguishing is OK if you don't want to control the
> >extinguisher
> >> manually. I do. I feel like I can turn on the fire bottles until the
fire
> >> is out and if I'm not stopped yet, I can turn off the fire bottles and
> >save
> >> the agent for later in the shut-down if the fire relights or was not
out
> >to
> >> begin with. Also manual control might let me breathe in the small
> >> cockpit!!! Too subtile?
> >> Hard to reason with a fire that is behind you though!!! Auto system
might
> >> be the best in the long run. I worry about false actuation.......
> >> Skip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:50 AM 10/30/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >Skip;
> >> >
> >> >That's a good idea. You could probably wire that into a solenoid-
> >operated
> >> >valve to actuate the fire bottles automatically, too.
> >> >
> >> >I've seen some aircraft fire detection systems that are based on a
wire
> >that
> >> >changes resistance. Some of the newer flame detectors sense
ultraviolet
> >> >radiation so they aren't confused by IR heat radiation from the
> >collectors
> >> >or other hot spots.
> >> >
> >> >Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
> >> >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:54 PM
> >> >To: Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Neil,
> >> >I have a fire detection system in the liner/lakester. Turns a bright
red
> >> >light on in the cockpit. No false alarms yet.
> >> >Skip

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