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Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments

To: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing <saltrat@pro-blend.com>
Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:26:35 -0500
yes but didn't you say in the beginning that you had a solenoid to run the fire
bottles or was that some one else...
Dave

Higginbotham Land Speed Racing wrote:
> 
> AAHHH....the discussion WAS on the subject of FIRE WARNING.
> Skip
> 
> At 11:17 AM 10/31/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Wouldn't common sense tell you that if there is a fire than you have to 
>assume
> >the electric stuff is all dead???
> >I would have to also believe that a mechanical linkage or actuator would be
> >mandatory for the same reason or if not at least for personal safety...
> >
> >Dave Dahlgren
> >
> >"Albaugh, Neil" wrote:
> >>
> >> The automatic actuation can be through a latching relay; once on it stays
> >> on.
> >>
> >> Regards,  Neil  Tucson, AZ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Higginbotham Land Speed Racing [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:11 PM
> >> To: landspeedracer; Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> >>
> >> And once you activate the switch it will stay on.
> >> Skip
> >>
> >> At 05:24 PM 10/30/01 -0500, landspeedracer wrote:
> >> >Remember Guys, with on/off switches or valves, as per the SCTA rule book:
> >> >"The valves shall be designed to remain open once actuated."
> >> >
> >> >John B.
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>
> >> >To: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:08 AM
> >> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Neil,
> >> >> The problem with resistance wire systems is false alarms.......not a 
>good
> >> >> idea at 300 MPH +. Too hard on the heart! And IR systems are a little
> >> >> pricey for me.
> >> >> Auto fire extinguishing is OK if you don't want to control the
> >> >extinguisher
> >> >> manually. I do. I feel like I can turn on the fire bottles until the 
>fire
> >> >> is out and if I'm not stopped yet, I can turn off the fire bottles and
> >> >save
> >> >> the agent for later in the shut-down if the fire relights or was not out
> >> >to
> >> >> begin with. Also manual control might let me breathe in the small
> >> >> cockpit!!! Too subtile?
> >> >> Hard to reason with a fire that is behind you though!!! Auto system 
>might
> >> >> be the best in the long run. I worry about false actuation.......
> >> >> Skip
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At 09:50 AM 10/30/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >> >Skip;
> >> >> >
> >> >> >That's a good idea. You could probably wire that into a solenoid-
> >> >operated
> >> >> >valve to actuate the fire bottles automatically, too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I've seen some aircraft fire detection systems that are based on a wire
> >> >that
> >> >> >changes resistance. Some of the newer flame detectors sense ultraviolet
> >> >> >radiation so they aren't confused by IR heat radiation from the
> >> >collectors
> >> >> >or other hot spots.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
> >> >> >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:54 PM
> >> >> >To: Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> >> >Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Neil,
> >> >> >I have a fire detection system in the liner/lakester. Turns a bright 
>red
> >> >> >light on in the cockpit. No false alarms yet.
> >> >> >Skip

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