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Re: Dyno Capability

To: DrMayf <drmayf@teknett.com>
Subject: Re: Dyno Capability
From: jkamo <jkamo@home.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:07:18 -0700
When you can duplicate the airflow in and around
your intake system, at full speed, at full power, at 2 minutes
into a run, with the rear wheel going from
9 mph wheelspin to 30 mph wheel spin and the
accompanying stress on the rods THEN you can talk to me about
 "wasting your time"


Joe :)

DrMayf wrote:

> Joe, I started this thread to see if there was interest in using a 
> dyno. There is apparently not much. However, to add something to you 
> comments below about determining power at home then running on the 
> salt. I am all for that. But, I remember year before last when you 
> were in the Notel 6 parking lot reassembling a "fresh" motor after 
> ventilating the primary one. Wouldn't you have liked to know that the 
> rebuild was at least some kind of capable before you wasted your time? 
> I would think that having some way to quantify the output, tune the 
> 'new' motor whether it be car, bus, train, or motorcycle before making 
> a run. Might even be a safety issue such as you could blow it up 
> before getting too fast to handle during an upset (yipes that came out 
> of left field). In any case, likely the use of any kind of dyno at the 
> salt is kaput. At least from me.
>
>  
>
> mayf
>
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From:jkamo <mailto:jkamo@home.com>
>
>     To: Bill Smith <mailto:WmTSmith@landracing.com>
>
>     Cc:jonw@up.net <mailto:jonw@up.net> ; drmayf@teknett.com
>     <mailto:drmayf@teknett.com> ; land-speed@autox.team.net
>     <mailto:land-speed@autox.team.net>
>
>     Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:08 AM
>
>     Subject: Re: Dyno Capability
>
>
>     Why not get "quantifiable data" at home then
>     go to Bonneville and see how fast you can go
>
>
>     hp at Bonneville may not be the same at home
>     where you are likely getting much of the motor
>     output sorted out
>
>     I know the week is too long for me to fool
>      around and make dyno pulls AFTER I show
>     up on the salt, the last thing I want to
>     do is make full power full nitrous dyno runs
>     to se how many times the internals like the
>     stress, unless it is to seee how fast it is going
>
>     this dyno business doesnt tell you didly about
>     what the motor is actually doing AT SPEED
>     on the course, and may shorten your week
>     "sorting things out"
>
>     dyno time may be great, but seat time
>     is pretty darn important too  :):)
>
>     Joe
>
>     Bill Smith wrote:
>
>>Guys,  Someone should contact Dynaflow sp? from Colorado--- they take their 
>portable 
>>to Pikes Peak (I think free of charge ) for the bike guys I bet they might do 
>the 
>>same. wmts
>>
>>---- Original Message ----
>>From:         Jon Wennerberg
>>Date:         Wed 2/20/02 13:01
>>To:           'jkamo', 'DrMayf'
>>Cc:           land-speed@autox.team.net
>>Subject:      RE: Dyno Capability
>>
>>You know, I've thought about asking Jim at 4&6 about packing up his dyno for
>>motorbikes and taking it to the races at the Salt -- just so the racers
>>would have some quantifiable data to use.  Should I pursue this line, or do
>>you think it'd cost more than it is worth?  Maybe it'd be something that I'd
>>have to sponsor or contribute to or whatever. . .
>>
>>Comments will be welcome -- I'll follow up and let you know if I can have a
>>motorcycle chassis dyno at the Salt.  Yes, Jon, I know about the "Gr
>>eat
>>White Dyno" just east of Wendover -- know what you mean.
>>
>>Jon    #436  1350 M/PS/G
>>  Marquette, Michigan
>> (that's way up north)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net
>>[mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of jkamo
>>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:43 PM
>>To: DrMayf
>>Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: Dyno Capability
>>
>>
>>Mayf, that white one outside of Wendover works real good,
>>simulates air density, temp, pressure, and even coefficient of
>>friction.........
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>DrMayf wrote:
>>
>>>If I had a dyno that would let you hook up your race car and simulate the
>>>length of time to make a complete run and record your parameters, would you
>>>come to Pahrump to use it? Would you pay for it? What if it was portable
>>>enough to bring to the race venue and hook up your car there? Would you pay
>>>to use it?
>>>
>>>mayf, the red necked ignorant desert rat in pahrump

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