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RE: Stopping rust

To: "'Walt Goddard'" <waltcpa@sierra.net>
Subject: RE: Stopping rust
From: "Dodd, Kelvin" <doddk@mossmotors.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:11:39 -0700
Walt:

        I'd suggest picking up a good auto body book for some professional
advice.  There are also a lot of really good web sites.

        You are doing a couple of things wrong.  The rubbing alcohol
contains water, which is not the best thing to be putting on the exposed new
surface.  There is a product called Prepsol, which is designed for cleaning
the painted surface first before you push the silicones and tars into the
metal with the sandpaper.

        The self etch primer, is a reasonable way to go for spot repairs,
but not as good as a properly etched surface.  The main problem is that a
primer is porous.  It is designed to absorb the top coat of paint for full
bonding.  Primer paint are not a barrier for water or oxidation.  The primer
must be covered by some kind of barrier coating.

        One step products such as "Extend" by Permatex contain a conversion
product, which chemically converts the rust, and a barrier material, in this
case Latex (I believe).  POR is another product that converts, then coats
with a moisture setting barrier coat.

        Check out some of the available material.  You want to convert the
rust, then protect the damaged panel from moisture and oxidation with a
secure barrier coating.


Kelvin.

> I have been slooowwwwlllly fixing the body on the 77 and cannot seem
> to stop the rust.  Sand down to bare metal, clean well with alcohol
> (rubbing alcohol, not drinking), and then primer with what's called
> self-etching primer.  Supposed to bond to the bare metal.  In all
> cases, rust is coming through the primer after less than 1 month.
> Is there some type of primer that will stop the rust?  Or is there
> some other method I should use when removing dents/scratches?
> TIA
> 
> Walt Goddard
> waltcpa@sierra.net
> 
> 

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