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Re: The curse of Lucas jumping ship

To: "Telewest \(PH\)" <>,
Subject: Re: The curse of Lucas jumping ship
From: "ptegler@cablespeed" <>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:53:48 -0500
Well if the pads are lifting that is NOT a Lucas problem....
that's a Honda design problem.  Lucas makes very few 'assemblies'
their relays made it into space in the shuttles, and in the euro
and Russian launches as well.

Lucas gets a bad rap.... maybe partially deserved...but come on...
ANY electronics that is are exposed to the elements for 30+ years
is going to croak sooner or later.

Paul Tegler
----- Original Message -----
From: "Telewest (PH)" <>
To: "Paul Root" <>; "Tab Julius" <>
Cc: <>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: The curse of Lucas jumping ship

> My daughter's Honda had relay problems too - wouldn't hot start - dealer
> wanted many tens of my pounds for a part he didn't even have in stock.
> Searched on Google and found hundreds of pages bemoaning the poor
> reliability of this relay, including one with detailed photos describing
> what went wrong and how to fix it.  On the Honda item there are two relays
> in the unit soldered to a pcb, but instead of there being short pins from
> the bottom of the relays that sit right against the pcb it uses long
> 'legs' from the top.  The relays get warm in use, the copper legs expand
> unequally, and push some of the pads off the pcb so cracking the tracks.
> Initially quite a problem to diagnose, but quite simple to fix.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Root" <>
> Cc: <>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: The curse of Lucas jumping ship
> > > At 11:34 AM 11/18/02, Paul Root wrote:
> > >
> > >> So, my poor old daily driver Mazda has been giving me fits
> > >> since about June....
> > >> Bad contact in the ignition (relay, I think). No parts needed
> > >> just fix up the wires.  Like Paul says, 90% of fuel problems is
> > >> ignition.

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