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Re: Why nylock nuts?

To: BarrMark262@aol.com, mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Why nylock nuts?
From: Barney Gaylord <barneymg@MGAguru.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:18:21 -0600
At 07:55 PM 11/16/03 -0500, Dinnis (BarrMark262@aol.com) wrote:
>Just curious list, as to why do our cars have some nylock nuts as 
>fasteners in some areas, and nuts and split washers in others.

I think locknuts can be easily classified as either free spinning or 
friction type.  Plain nut and split washer would be free spinning, where 
you can spin it down most of the way with your fingers and do the last turn 
with a wrench.  Nylock nuts are friction type, and have to be wrenched all 
the way down the thread during installation.

As far as I know, on all MGs through 1980 production there were only two 
basic types of locknut used (other than plain nut and lock washer), and 
both were all steel construction.  The most common one was the castellated 
nut used with a cross drilled bolt and requiring a split pin to secure 
it.  These are commonly used in the front suspension and wheel bearing 
spindles, free spinning type.  As long as there is no unusual damage to the 
nut, these can be re-used indefinitely.

The second type had a split top end on the nut with the thread in that area 
slightly compressed to provide an interference fit and lots of friction on 
the thread.  Two slightly different versions of this as I recall.  One had 
very narrow vertical slits with about 6 tabs that were deformed 
inward.  These may have been used on rear spring shackles of some 
cars.  Another had a very narrow horizontal slit just below the top of the 
nut which went part way around the nut, and the metal above the slit was 
deformed slightly inward or axially out of pitch.  This last one was 
standard issue on propshaft and engine mount bolts in the MGA.  Both of 
these are friction type locknuts, not free spinning.  As long as there is 
no unusual damage to the nut, these also might be re-used many times, at 
least until the short length of friction thread would wear out to the point 
of no longer providing friction.

>I prefer the nylock when your fingers and hands are really cramped and 
>contorted trying to get a silly fastener attached.

I don't like Nylock nuts much.  Aside from being difficult to wrench, not 
free spining, they are also supposed to be single use fasteners, throw away 
any time they are removed, because the locking device wears out with the 
first use.  In past years it seemed to be of some importance that threaded 
fasteners were intended to be re-useable.  If you had to do a roadside 
repair in the middle of nowhere you didn't want to have to go looking for 
new fasteners.  I think the Nylock nuts are popular replacements for 
castellated nuts these days mostly because they are cheaper to manufacture, 
and quicker to install without fiddling with the split pin.  But if you 
have to replace it more than once the cost savings is gone.

For critical applications like a propshaft I still use a friction locknut, 
either all metal or nylock type.

For the engine mounts I have adopted use of another free spinning type 
locknut.  This one has an external tooth star washer captured permanently 
on the bottom of the nut.  Spin down freely with fingers, and wrench the 
last turn.  They are re-useable a few times at least, but how many times 
you re-use is a matter of judgement.  When the star washer is totally 
smashed and has lost the sharp edges it's time for replacement.  They do 
seem to last a lot longer than standard split lockwashers (which you night 
toss after a single use because they're cheap).  I really like the free 
spinning locknuts where the space is tight and you need to work with them 
periodically.  Next best thing to Velcro engine mounts.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com




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