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The car=E2=80=99s been running for years. What started all of this is at =
high highway speeds, I=E2=80=99d get a bit of shimmy and knocking. In =
the Land Rover West Coast list, I got infected with Nigel=E2=80=99s =
disease, whereby if I have a problem and go to fix it, another problem =
presents itself ad infinitum. So I took the knock off wire wheels off =
and bought a complete suspension kit from Moss. To put some of the new =
parts on, I had to remove the hub (specifically for the new oil seal). =
In doing that, one hub came off with both bearings attached to the hub =
with the spacer inside flopping around. This is the side the machinist =
pressed the bearings in until the hit the =E2=80=9Csupposed=E2=80=9D =
shoulder inside the hub. After he was done, the inner spacer still =
flopped around. The other hub came off with the inner bearing staying =
with the spindle. He started to press this inner bearing back in, but it =
was sloppy and kind of slipped in, and therefore I have to buy a new hub =
and bits. The manual says that the bearing may not come out with the =
hub. It also says that the bearings shouldn=E2=80=99t be removed unless =
absolutely necessary as it causes wear as the bearing come in and out. =
In the process, I found that neither front brake caliper seemed to work: =
the pistons wouldn=E2=80=99t move manually and trying to move them =
deeper was too difficult. The whole cylinder looked kind of welded to =
the piston, the disk looked like it hadn=E2=80=99t seen action on either =
side. I then also measured the thickness and it is under spec, so new =
parts all around for brakes. Then the top and bottom swivels =
weren=E2=80=99t wide enough, when trying to press out those bearing, so =
let=E2=80=99s buy some really expensive swivels. Nigel=E2=80=99s =
disease: find one problem and then find more, and more=E2=80=A6
=20
Clayton
=20
From: Max Heim [mailto:mvheim@sonic.net]=20
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 1:03 PM
To: crk@godblessthe.us
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
=20
I have to concur with your lack of confidence in this machinist. But =
I=E2=80=99m struck by the fact that the problem manifests differently on =
either side. That=E2=80=99s why I asked if you might possibly have =
mismatched parts. Was this a running car? What was the symptom that made =
you disassemble the hubs?
=20
=20
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires
And now 67 MGB GHN3U137949G
Old English White, off-premises for restoration
=20
On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Clayton Kirkwood <crk@godblessthe.us =
=20
I took both sides in to the machinist; one side had a bearing in but the =
other bearing came out along with the then free inner spacer with the =
chamfered end. The other hub came out intact, but the inner spacer was =
flopping around between the bearings. The first hub, he pressed the =
bearings back in fully to the shoulder, so he says, but the inner spacer =
was still floppy inside. On the second hub, he inserted the inner spacer =
and then tried to press in the free bearing but it wasn=E2=80=99t snug: =
the bearing was easily slipping in and out of the hub. He said this hub =
needed to be completely replaced. I don=E2=80=99t have the greatest =
confidence in this guy, I don=E2=80=99t know if he tried to press this =
second bearing in all the way where it may be snug, or he may have just =
inserted the bearing into the hub and initially it was loose and he =
assumed pressing the bearing in all the way would still be loose. Since =
this bearing came out when I removed the hub from the spindle, I think =
it reasonable that it wasn=E2=80=99t going to be tight all the way in on =
the spindle, otherwise, it would have stayed in the hub.
So one side the bearing won=E2=80=99t go up tight to the inner spacer, =
and the second side=E2=80=99s bearing won=E2=80=99t press in tight in =
the hub.
=20
crk
=20
From: Max Heim [mailto:mvheim@sonic.net]=20
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
=20
You mention a second spindle. Are you saying that this problem only =
exists on one side?
=20
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires
And now 67 MGB GHN3U137949G
Old English White, off-premises for restoration
=20
On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs < =
=20
I have all of the pieces. The relevant pieces are the hub, inner spacer, =
and two bearings, no shims. The hub is supposed to have shoulders so the =
bearings are limited to how far they go in. What has been discussed in =
the past is that the bearings should bind against the inner spacer, =
therefore before one or both of the bearing are seated against the hub =
inner shoulders. The machinist says he pressed the bearing until he hit =
the shoulders. Therefore, the inner spacer is flopping around inside =
with tons of endplay.
=20
crk
=20
mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com]=20
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
=20
You might want to look at the KK.3 parts exploded view to see if you =
have all the parts in your hubs.
CR
On 7/3/2015 11:55 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:
I believe there are no shims on the MGA like there are on the MGB, =
according to a previous post from someone. I=E2=80=99ve got the manual =
and I didn=E2=80=99t see anything about shims. The slop on that inner =
spacer is around 3/8 inch, unlikely such a large shim requirement.
=20
Clayton
=20
mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com]=20
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
=20
Sounds like you've left the shims out. The end play of the bearings is =
set by the thickness of the shims between the bearings and the spacer. =
The more shim thickness, the less end play and vice-versa. The shims =
come in various thicknesses, you select the thicknesses to combine i =
order to arrive at the proper end play.
Suggest you buy the factory shop manual and read up on it.
CR
On 7/2/2015 2:50 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:
Returning to our story=E2=80=A6. The consensus for the wire wheel hubs =
was that the inner and outer bearings were to tightly crimp the =
single-chamfered spacer between them by pressing the bearings in. That =
makes the three pieces essentially one, strengthing the three into one, =
eliminating any side forces on the bearings. I took my two spindles and =
associated bearings and center spacer to the machine shop. Guy says that =
the outer bearing was loose in its proper placement and I agree. He said =
the solution was a new spindle and bearings. Ok. The second spindle, =
however, is a different story: he pressed the two bearing in to their =
limit shoulders and the inner spacer still was flopping around inside, =
absolutely not crimped in place. He and I don=E2=80=99t understand this =
problem. Any insight??? There is a quarter inch thick spacer that I read =
as being outside of the bearings. Or is this supposed to be inside??
=20
At this point, it looks like I will be ordering both spindle and =
bearings. Fortunately, Moss has the parts on sale:<)++++
=20
TIA,
=20
Clayton
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>The car=E2=80=99s been running for years. What started all of this is =
at high highway speeds, I=E2=80=99d get a bit of shimmy and knocking. In =
the Land Rover West Coast list, I got infected with Nigel=E2=80=99s =
disease, whereby if I have a problem and go to fix it, another problem =
presents itself ad infinitum. So I took the knock off wire wheels off =
and bought a complete suspension kit from Moss. To put some of the new =
parts on, I had to remove the hub (specifically for the new oil seal). =
In doing that, one hub came off with both bearings attached to the hub =
with the spacer inside flopping around. This is the side the machinist =
pressed the bearings in until the hit the =E2=80=9Csupposed=E2=80=9D =
shoulder inside the hub. After he was done, the inner spacer still =
flopped around. The other hub came off with the inner bearing staying =
with the spindle. He started to press this inner bearing back in, but it =
was sloppy and kind of slipped in, and therefore I have to buy a new hub =
and bits. The manual says that the bearing may not come out with the =
hub. It also says that the bearings shouldn=E2=80=99t be removed unless =
absolutely necessary as it causes wear as the bearing come in and out. =
In the process, I found that neither front brake caliper seemed to work: =
the pistons wouldn=E2=80=99t move manually and trying to move them =
deeper was too difficult. The whole cylinder looked kind of welded to =
the piston, the disk looked like it hadn=E2=80=99t seen action on either =
side. I then also measured the thickness and it is under spec, so new =
parts all around for brakes. Then the top and bottom swivels =
weren=E2=80=99t wide enough, when trying to press out those bearing, so =
let=E2=80=99s buy some really expensive swivels. Nigel=E2=80=99s =
disease: find one problem and then find more, and =
more=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Clayton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Max Heim [mailto:mvheim@sonic.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 03, =
2015 1:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> crk@godblessthe.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension =
issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have to =
concur with your lack of confidence in this machinist. But I=E2=80=99m =
struck by the fact that the problem manifests differently on either =
side. That=E2=80=99s why I asked if you might possibly have mismatched =
parts. Was this a running car? What was the symptom that made you =
disassemble the hubs?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Max =
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>'66 MGB =
GHN3L76149<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>If you're near Menlo Park, =
CA,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>it's the primer red one with =
chrome wires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>And now 67 MGB =
GHN3U137949G<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Old English White, off-premises =
for restoration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Clayton Kirkwood <<a =
href=3D"mailto:crk@godblessthe.us";>crk@godblessthe.us</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I took both sides in to the machinist; one side had a bearing in but =
the other bearing came out along with the then free inner spacer with =
the chamfered end. The other hub came out intact, but the inner spacer =
was flopping around between the bearings. The first hub, he pressed the =
bearings back in fully to the shoulder, so he says, but the inner spacer =
was still floppy inside. On the second hub, he inserted the inner spacer =
and then tried to press in the free bearing but it wasn=E2=80=99t snug: =
the bearing was easily slipping in and out of the hub. He said this hub =
needed to be completely replaced. I don=E2=80=99t have the greatest =
confidence in this guy, I don=E2=80=99t know if he tried to press this =
second bearing in all the way where it may be snug, or he may have just =
inserted the bearing into the hub and initially it was loose and he =
assumed pressing the bearing in all the way would still be loose. Since =
this bearing came out when I removed the hub from the spindle, I think =
it reasonable that it wasn=E2=80=99t going to be tight all the way in on =
the spindle, otherwise, it would have stayed in the =
hub.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>So one side the bearing won=E2=80=99t go up tight to the inner spacer, =
and the second side=E2=80=99s bearing won=E2=80=99t press in tight in =
the hub.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>crk</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Max Heim [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net";>mailto:mvheim@sonic.net</a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Friday, July 03, 2015 12:00 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:crk@godblessthe.us";>crk@godblessthe.us</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Mgs] follow up =
on mga 1622 suspension =
issues</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You mention a second spindle. Are you saying that this =
problem only exists on one side?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Max =
Heim</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>'66 MGB =
GHN3L76149</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>If you're near Menlo =
Park, CA,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>it's the primer red =
one with chrome wires</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>And now 67 MGB =
GHN3U137949G</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Old English White, =
off-premises for =
restoration</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs =
<<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>mgs@autox.team.net</span></a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I have all of the pieces. The relevant pieces are the hub, inner =
spacer, and two bearings, no shims. The hub is supposed to have =
shoulders so the bearings are limited to how far they go in. What has =
been discussed in the past is that the bearings should bind against the =
inner spacer, therefore before one or both of the bearing are seated =
against the hub inner shoulders. The machinist says he pressed the =
bearing until he hit the shoulders. Therefore, the inner spacer is =
flopping around inside with tons of =
endplay.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>crk</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Charley =
& Peggy Robinson [<a href=3D"mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com";><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com</span></a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Friday, July 03, 2015 11:25 =
AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:crk@godblessthe.us";><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>crk@godblessthe.us</span></a>;<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>mgs@autox.team.net</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><s=
pan class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Mgs] follow up on =
mga 1622 suspension =
issues</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>You might =
want to look at the KK.3 parts exploded view to see if you have all the =
parts in your hubs.<br><br>CR</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On 7/3/2015 =
11:55 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I believe there are no shims on the MGA like there are on the MGB, =
according to a previous post from someone. I=E2=80=99ve got the manual =
and I didn=E2=80=99t see anything about shims. The slop on that inner =
spacer is around 3/8 inch, unlikely such a large shim =
requirement.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Clayton</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Charley =
& Peggy Robinson [<a href=3D"mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com";><span =
style=3D'color:#954F72'>mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com</span></a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Friday, July 03, 2015 9:12 =
AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:crk@godblessthe.us";><span =
style=3D'color:#954F72'>crk@godblessthe.us</span></a>;<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:#954F72'>mgs@autox.team.net</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><=
span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Mgs] follow up on =
mga 1622 suspension =
issues</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;background-position:initia=
l initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sounds like =
you've left the shims out. The end play of the bearings is set by =
the thickness of the shims between the bearings and the spacer. =
The more shim thickness, the less end play and vice-versa. The =
shims come in various thicknesses, you select the thicknesses to combine =
i order to arrive at the proper end play.<br><br>Suggest you buy the =
factory shop manual and read up on =
it.<br><br>CR</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On 7/2/2015 =
2:50 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Returning to =
our story=E2=80=A6. The consensus for the wire wheel hubs was that the =
inner and outer bearings were to tightly crimp the single-chamfered =
spacer between them by pressing the bearings in. That makes the three =
pieces essentially one, strengthing the three into one, eliminating any =
side forces on the bearings. I took my two spindles and associated =
bearings and center spacer to the machine shop. Guy says that the outer =
bearing was loose in its proper placement and I agree. He said the =
solution was a new spindle and bearings. Ok. The second spindle, =
however, is a different story: he pressed the two bearing in to their =
limit shoulders and the inner spacer still was flopping around inside, =
absolutely not crimped in place. He and I don=E2=80=99t understand this =
problem. Any insight??? There is a quarter inch thick spacer that I read =
as being outside of the bearings. Or is this supposed to be =
inside??</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>At this =
point, it looks like I will be ordering both spindle and bearings. =
Fortunately, Moss has the parts on =
sale:<)++++</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>TIA,</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span>=
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Clayton</span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman =
,serif",serif'><br><br><br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
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