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I have all of the pieces. The relevant pieces are the hub, inner spacer, and
two bearings, no shims. The hub is supposed to have shoulders so the
bearings are limited to how far they go in. What has been discussed in the
past is that the bearings should bind against the inner spacer, therefore
before one or both of the bearing are seated against the hub inner
shoulders. The machinist says he pressed the bearing until he hit the
shoulders. Therefore, the inner spacer is flopping around inside with tons
of endplay.
crk
From: Charley & Peggy Robinson [mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com]
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 11:25 AM
To: crk@godblessthe.us; mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
You might want to look at the KK.3 parts exploded view to see if you have
all the parts in your hubs.
CR
On 7/3/2015 11:55 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:
I believe there are no shims on the MGA like there are on the MGB, according
to a previous post from someone. I've got the manual and I didn't see
anything about shims. The slop on that inner spacer is around 3/8 inch,
unlikely such a large shim requirement.
Clayton
From: Charley & Peggy Robinson [mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com]
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension issues
Sounds like you've left the shims out. The end play of the bearings is set
by the thickness of the shims between the bearings and the spacer. The more
shim thickness, the less end play and vice-versa. The shims come in various
thicknesses, you select the thicknesses to combine i order to arrive at the
proper end play.
Suggest you buy the factory shop manual and read up on it.
CR
On 7/2/2015 2:50 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs wrote:
Returning to our story.. The consensus for the wire wheel hubs was that the
inner and outer bearings were to tightly crimp the single-chamfered spacer
between them by pressing the bearings in. That makes the three pieces
essentially one, strengthing the three into one, eliminating any side forces
on the bearings. I took my two spindles and associated bearings and center
spacer to the machine shop. Guy says that the outer bearing was loose in its
proper placement and I agree. He said the solution was a new spindle and
bearings. Ok. The second spindle, however, is a different story: he pressed
the two bearing in to their limit shoulders and the inner spacer still was
flopping around inside, absolutely not crimped in place. He and I don't
understand this problem. Any insight??? There is a quarter inch thick spacer
that I read as being outside of the bearings. Or is this supposed to be
inside??
At this point, it looks like I will be ordering both spindle and bearings.
Fortunately, Moss has the parts on sale:<)++++
TIA,
Clayton
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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I have all of the pieces. The relevant pieces =
are the hub, inner spacer, and two bearings, no shims. The hub is =
supposed to have shoulders so the bearings are limited to how far they =
go in. What has been discussed in the past is that the bearings should =
bind against the inner spacer, therefore before one or both of the =
bearing are seated against the hub inner shoulders. The machinist says =
he pressed the bearing until he hit the shoulders. Therefore, the inner =
spacer is flopping around inside with tons of =
endplay.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>crk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'> Charley & Peggy Robinson =
[mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 03, 2015 11:25 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> crk@godblessthe.us; =
mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 =
suspension issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You might want to look at the KK.3 parts =
exploded view to see if you have all the parts in your =
hubs.<br><br>CR<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/3/2015 11:55 AM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I believe there are no =
shims on the MGA like there are on the MGB, according to a previous post =
from someone. I’ve got the manual and I didn’t see anything =
about shims. The slop on that inner spacer is around 3/8 inch, unlikely =
such a large shim requirement.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Clayton</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'> Charley & Peggy Robinson [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com";>mailto:ccrobins@ktc.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 03, 2015 9:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:crk@godblessthe.us";>crk@godblessthe.us</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Mgs] follow up on mga 1622 suspension =
issues</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sounds like you've left the shims =
out. The end play of the bearings is set by the thickness of the =
shims between the bearings and the spacer. The more shim =
thickness, the less end play and vice-versa. The shims come in =
various thicknesses, you select the thicknesses to combine i order to =
arrive at the proper end play.<br><br>Suggest you buy the factory shop =
manual and read up on it.<br><br>CR<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/2/2015 2:50 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Returning to our story…. The consensus for the =
wire wheel hubs was that the inner and outer bearings were to tightly =
crimp the single-chamfered spacer between them by pressing the bearings =
in. That makes the three pieces essentially one, strengthing the three =
into one, eliminating any side forces on the bearings. I took my two =
spindles and associated bearings and center spacer to the machine shop. =
Guy says that the outer bearing was loose in its proper placement and I =
agree. He said the solution was a new spindle and bearings. Ok. The =
second spindle, however, is a different story: he pressed the two =
bearing in to their limit shoulders and the inner spacer still was =
flopping around inside, absolutely not crimped in place. He and I =
don’t understand this problem. Any insight??? There is a quarter =
inch thick spacer that I read as being outside of the bearings. Or is =
this supposed to be inside??<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>At this =
point, it looks like I will be ordering both spindle and bearings. =
Fortunately, Moss has the parts on sale:<)++++<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TIA,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Clayton<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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