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I also had a coil failing with a hot engine with my Puch moped!
Soon it went worse, so the coil had to be replaced.
Cheers,
Hans
Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Steve Shoyer via Mgs
Verzonden: dinsdag 10 maart 2020 20:45
Aan: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MGB not (re)starting
Thanks. I don't think it's the battery. The battery is about two years ol=
d, and it's been plugged into a battery tender over the winter. I didn't h=
ave any trouble getting the starter to crank, and I was running the starter=
for a while without the battery appearing to run down.
I'll have to test it by starting the car cold, driving it around my neighbo=
rhood for a while, then parking it back in my garage and trying to restart =
it after 20-30 minutes. If it won't start I can pull the plugs and take a =
look, and also test the battery to see if it wasn't holding the charge. I =
can also check compression at that point - maybe the head gets loose when i=
t warms up?
I also thought it might be the coil - I had read that sometimes after the c=
oil gets warm it can cause intermittent problems. If that was the case I'd=
think the car wouldn't run after being push started, but I'm far from an e=
xpert. I was just guessing at the carb because I've never been good at tun=
ing carbs, and it's the last thing I changed on the car.
--Steve
On 3/10/2020 3:17 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs wrote:
Check the battery connections, clean and replace.
Mike MacLean
69 MGB GT
x.team.net> <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
What is the voltage on the battery? See:
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/advice/car-maintenance/car-battery-volt=
age-range
On Behalf Of Max Heim via Mgs
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB not (re)starting
What makes you think it was carb related? The fact that you could push star=
t it makes me think it was more likely battery or starter related. It being=
the end of winter, I suspect a flat battery.
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB
On Mar 10, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Steve Shoyer via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
It was in the 70's yesterday, so I took my 1980 MGB out for a ride. My cur=
rent carb is a Weber 38 DGES that I installed when I replaced the cam two y=
ears ago. I drove around last year and it was running well, until one day =
when I stopped at a store for a few minutes and then couldn't get the car r=
estarted. After trying to get it going I wound up calling my daughter for =
help and we got it push-started. Yesterday the same thing happened. After=
the push start the car ran fine, but I just drove it home rather than risk=
another problem. I was trying some starter fluid to get it going yesterda=
y, but that didn't work. I thought that maybe the gas in the tank is old, =
but the car started up after a little cranking when I originally left the h=
ouse.
Any suggestions on where to look? I didn't plumb the coolant line through =
the manifold to heat it, but I don't drive too much in cold weather so I di=
dn't think it would be needed. I thought that the problem last summer coul=
d have been vapor lock, but starter fluid should have worked if that was th=
e issue.
Thanks.
--Steve (1980 MGB)
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I also had a coil failing with a hot engine with my Puch =
moped!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Soon it went worse, so the coil had to be =
replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>Namens </b>Steve Shoyer via =
Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 10 maart 2020 20:45<br><b>Aan:</b> =
mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] MGB not =
(re)starting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Thanks. I don't think =
it's the battery. The battery is about two years old, and it's =
been plugged into a battery tender over the winter. I didn't have =
any trouble getting the starter to crank, and I was running the starter =
for a while without the battery appearing to run =
down.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I'll have to test it by starting the car cold, =
driving it around my neighborhood for a while, then parking it back in =
my garage and trying to restart it after 20-30 minutes. If it =
won't start I can pull the plugs and take a look, and also test the =
battery to see if it wasn't holding the charge. I can also check =
compression at that point - maybe the head gets loose when it warms =
up?<o:p></o:p></p><p>I also thought it might be the coil - I had read =
that sometimes after the coil gets warm it can cause intermittent =
problems. If that was the case I'd think the car wouldn't run =
after being push started, but I'm far from an expert. I was just =
guessing at the carb because I've never been good at tuning carbs, and =
it's the last thing I changed on the =
car.<o:p></o:p></p><p>--Steve<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
3/10/2020 3:17 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Check the battery connections, clean and =
replace.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>69 MGB =
GT<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"yahoo_quoted_4146678925"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 11:41:43 AM PDT, dave via Mgs <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><mgs@autox.team.net></a> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv4099544913><div><div><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>What is the voltage on the battery? =
See:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><a =
href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/advice/car-maintenance/car-ba=
ttery-voltage-range" =
target=3D"_blank">https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/advice/car-maintena=
nce/car-battery-voltage-range</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv4099544913yqt49081><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> Mgs <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";><mgs-bounces@autox.team.net=
></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Max Heim via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
March 10, 2020 12:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> MGs <a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";><mgs@autox.team.net></a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Mgs] MGB not =
(re)starting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>What makes you think it was carb related? The fact that you could =
push start it makes me think it was more likely battery or starter =
related. It being the end of winter, I suspect a flat =
battery.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv4099544913yqt99890><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>--</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Max Heim</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>'66 MGB</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>On Mar 10, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Steve Shoyer via Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>It was in the 70's yesterday, so I took my 1980 MGB out for a =
ride. My current carb is a Weber 38 DGES that I installed when I =
replaced the cam two years ago. I drove around last year and it =
was running well, until one day when I stopped at a store for a few =
minutes and then couldn't get the car restarted. After trying to =
get it going I wound up calling my daughter for help and we got it =
push-started. Yesterday the same thing happened. After the =
push start the car ran fine, but I just drove it home rather than risk =
another problem. I was trying some starter fluid to get it going =
yesterday, but that didn't work. I thought that maybe the gas in =
the tank is old, but the car started up after a little cranking when I =
originally left the house. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Any suggestions on where to look? I didn't plumb the coolant =
line through the manifold to heat it, but I don't drive too much in cold =
weather so I didn't think it would be needed. I thought that the =
problem last summer could have been vapor lock, but starter fluid should =
have worked if that was the issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>Thanks. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv4099544913msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
82A'>--Steve (1980 MGB) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#262=
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