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Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders
From: dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 21:33:23 -0500
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Funny.  I=E2=80=99ve been using them for years on a dozen different cars =
and always had good results.

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From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Osborne, Paul via =
Mgs
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:25 PM
To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

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When they first came out I tried a set, I threw them away for all the =
same reasons. =20

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paul o

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On May 23, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <Mgs@autox.team.net =

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They need to be tight enough not to leak while someone is pumping the =
brakes. You can=E2=80=99t bleed with a socket on it. The problem is that =
the crappy bleed screws that are inappropriately metric because they are =
made in Asia also have crappy threads, a crappy seat, and are made of =
crappy metal.=20



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On May 23, 2020, at 12:57 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net =

On both of mine the clutch and caliper nipples are the same hex size.

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Wheel cylinders are quite a bit smaller so not surprising the bleed =
nipples are smaller.

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How tight do you need them to be?  If they round-off it's the screw that =
is the problem.  Use a socket for initial loosening and final =
tightening, in my 3/8" drive socket set they go down to 4mm and 3/16".

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PaulH.

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I can see why =E2=80=94 it is a uselessly tiny size. Appropriate for =
fine instruments, perhaps, but seriously undersized for anything that =
needs actual tightening, like a bleed screw.=20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Funny.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve been using them for years on =
a dozen different cars and always had good results.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs =
&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Osborne, Paul via =
Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Max =
Heim &lt;mvheim@sonic.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] Speed =
Bleeders<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When they =
first came out I tried a set, I threw them away for all the same =
reasons.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>paul o<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On May 23, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Max Heim via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net";>Mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>They need =
to be tight enough not to leak while someone is pumping the brakes. You =
can=E2=80=99t bleed with a socket on it. The problem is that the crappy =
bleed screws that are inappropriately metric because they are made in =
Asia also have crappy threads, a crappy seat, and are made of crappy =
metal.&nbsp;<br style=3D'font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: =
auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Sent from =
my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>On May =
23, 2020, at 12:57 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";>mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: =
normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: =
auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On both of =
mine the clutch and caliper nipples are the same hex =
size.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Wheel =
cylinders are quite a bit smaller so not surprising the bleed nipples =
are smaller.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>How tight =
do you need&nbsp;them to be?&nbsp; If they round-off it's the screw that =
is the problem.&nbsp; Use a socket for initial loosening and final =
tightening, in&nbsp;my 3/8&quot; drive socket set they go down to 4mm =
and 3/16&quot;.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I can see =
why =E2=80=94 it is a uselessly tiny size. Appropriate for fine =
instruments, perhaps, but seriously undersized for anything that needs =
actual tightening, like a bleed screw.<span =
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