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www.litezupp.com <http://www.litezupp.com>  makes an excellent LED =
lightbulb which is quite literally plug and play.  Looks and has the =
same plug as a standard light bulb.  And is incredibly bright.  And =
since its an LED, it doesn=E2=80=99t draw much current.  Totally worth =
it.

=20

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Max Heim
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:38 PM
To: Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net>; MGB List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] LED instrument lights

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I used these bulbs just for the instrument panel lamps. The instrument =
panel turn signal indicators would take the same bulb.

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Although the bulbs are advertised as =E2=80=9Cdim-able=E2=80=9D in my =
experience they are either on or off =E2=80=94 full brightness or not =
visible. It could very well be that a electronic dimmer is required, and =
they don't =E2=80=9Cdim=E2=80=9D with the old-fashioned rheostat.

=20

The tail and stop lamps take a different base, and one would want the =
largest/brightest unit available. I installed the ones offered by Moss =
Motors.

=20

I tried the LEDs offered by Moss for the front turn indicators, but they =
didn=E2=80=99t work on my car =E2=80=94 they were too long. When I =
tightened down the lens screws, it pressed the bulb down into the =
socket, cutting off the current. Later I figured out that I could have =
doubled up on the foam gaskets and prevented this.

=20

Note that using LEDs in the turn signal circuit requires one to install =
a electronic flasher unit.

=20

LED headlamp conversions are a more complex subject which I have not =
investigated.

=20

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--

Max Heim


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On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net =

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Hello Max,

That is brilliant (sorry for the pun!)

Did you by any chance get LEDs for rear brakes and turn bulbs or =
elsewhere ?  You don't do the turn ones but I think brighter would be =
better.  Do you have reference number for them and brakes ???- I looked =
at my bulbs but no numbers !!!!   The only place I would not use LEDs is =
the head light - too expensive.  =20

But one thing - it says you can dim with normal rheostat as used =
originally.   I must use a 'inverter' from SpeedHut to dim my speedo and =
tach - So does that mean I keep the currently installed dimmer with the =
LEDLight bulbs and add another dimmer for the SpeedHuts ?  Actually =
that's sort of sexy - individual dimming  - wow !!!!!

Your information was a relief as I was humming and harring about what to =
get! =20

Cheers
Barrie








On 7/7/2020 1:00 PM, Max Heim wrote:

I bought these LEDs for the instruments in my 1966 B, from LEDLight.com =
<http://ledlight.com/> .=20

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Product ID 57567

#1487 Miniature Bulb E10 Base 5 5050 12V Dim-able T3 1/4

Color: Warm White 3000K

$2.42 ea.

=20

Note that there are brighter bulbs, but they contain more LED elements =
and are longer, and will not fit in the fuel or combo gauge locations. =
The number after the word =E2=80=9CBase=E2=80=9D indicates the number of =
elements. The next size would be a =E2=80=9C9=E2=80=9D.

=20

I chose Warm White to simulate the color of the incandescent bulbs. I =
had tried the Bright White bulbs but I didn't like the effect =E2=80=94 =
it was slightly bluish and actually tended to wash out the lettering on =
the gauges.

=20

I did not use LEDs in the turn signal indicators because I didn't see =
any need for them to be brighter.

=20

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net =

=20

Hello Folks,

I have installed a SpeedHut speedo and tacho in my MGB GT V8 (not a =
factory one) and they are superb.  But the dimmer does not work on them. =
 So I have decided to put LED bulbs in the remaining four smaller gauges =
and this means I have to install a LED dimmer for all six gauges.   =
SpeedHut supply an LED dimmer but despite many emails I cannot find how =
their dimmer hooks up with their gauges and my to-be-installed LEDs in =
the smaller four. (Probably affected by the dreaded virus - which we =
know is a hoax).  I do not to know what LED bulbs I get for my 4 small =
gauges - and I need the new stronger ones.   I bought LEDs a while way =
back and they were no stronger than the incandescents !!!=20

So is there anyone who is into this subject as your help would be much =
appreciated.

I do hope that all is well with you and yours.  We are not doing badly =
and so far the dreaded lurgy has not come near us - but taking super =
precautions including face masks.

Cheers
Barrie

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.litezupp.com";>www.litezupp.com</a> makes an excellent =
LED lightbulb which is quite literally plug and play.=C2=A0 Looks and =
has the same plug as a standard light bulb.=C2=A0 And is incredibly =
bright.=C2=A0 And since its an LED, it doesn=E2=80=99t draw much =
current.=C2=A0 Totally worth it.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs =
&lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Max =
Heim<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> Barrie =
Robinson &lt;barrob@bell.net&gt;; MGB List =
&lt;mgs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] LED instrument =
lights<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I used these =
bulbs just for the instrument panel lamps. The instrument panel turn =
signal indicators would take the same bulb.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Although the bulbs are advertised as =
=E2=80=9Cdim-able=E2=80=9D in my experience they are either on or off =
=E2=80=94 full brightness or not visible. It could very well be that a =
electronic dimmer is required, and they don't =E2=80=9Cdim=E2=80=9D with =
the old-fashioned rheostat.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The tail and stop lamps take a different base, and one =
would want the largest/brightest unit available. I installed the ones =
offered by Moss Motors.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
tried the LEDs offered by Moss for the front turn indicators, but they =
didn=E2=80=99t work on my car =E2=80=94 they were too long. When I =
tightened down the lens screws, it pressed the bulb down into the =
socket, cutting off the current. Later I figured out that I could have =
doubled up on the foam gaskets and prevented =
this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Note that using LEDs in the turn signal circuit =
requires one to install a electronic flasher unit.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>LED headlamp conversions are a more complex subject =
which I have not investigated.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Max =
Heim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net";>mvheim@sonic.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Barrie Robinson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:barrob@bell.net";>barrob@bell.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hello =
Max,<br><br>That is brilliant (sorry for the pun!)<br><br>Did you by any =
chance get LEDs for rear brakes and turn bulbs or elsewhere ?&nbsp; You =
don't do the turn ones but I think brighter would be better.&nbsp; Do =
you have reference number for them and brakes ???- I looked at my bulbs =
but no numbers !!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; The only place I would not use LEDs is =
the head light - too expensive.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>But one thing - it =
says you can dim with normal rheostat as used originally.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
<i>must</i> use a 'inverter' from SpeedHut to dim my speedo and tach - =
So does that mean I keep the currently installed dimmer with the =
LEDLight bulbs and add another dimmer for the SpeedHuts ?&nbsp; Actually =
that's sort of sexy - individual dimming&nbsp; - wow !!!!!<br><br>Your =
information was a relief as I was humming and harring about what to =
get!&nbsp; =
<br><br>Cheers<br>Barrie<br><br><br><br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/7/2020 1:00 PM, Max Heim =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
bought these LEDs for the instruments in my 1966 B, from <a =
href=3D"http://ledlight.com/";>LEDLight.com</a>. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Product ID 57567<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>#1487 Miniature Bulb E10 Base 5 5050 12V Dim-able T3 =
1/4<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Color: Warm White =
3000K<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>$2.42 =
ea.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Note that there are brighter bulbs, but they contain =
more LED elements and are longer, and will not fit in the fuel or combo =
gauge locations. The number after the word =E2=80=9CBase=E2=80=9D =
indicates the number of elements. The next size would be a =
=E2=80=9C9=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
chose Warm White to simulate the color of the incandescent bulbs. I had =
tried the Bright White bulbs but I didn't like the effect =E2=80=94 it =
was slightly bluish and actually tended to wash out the lettering on the =
gauges.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
did not use LEDs in the turn signal indicators because I didn't see any =
need for them to be brighter.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Max =
Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>'66 =
MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Barrie Robinson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:barrob@bell.net";>barrob@bell.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hello =
Folks,<br><br>I have installed a SpeedHut speedo and tacho in my MGB GT =
V8 (not a factory one) and they are superb.&nbsp; But the dimmer does =
not work on them.&nbsp; So I have decided to put LED bulbs in the =
remaining four smaller gauges and this means I have to install a LED =
dimmer for all six gauges.&nbsp;&nbsp; SpeedHut supply an LED dimmer but =
despite many emails I cannot find how their dimmer hooks up with their =
gauges and my to-be-installed LEDs in the smaller four. (Probably =
affected by the dreaded virus - which we know is a hoax).&nbsp; I do not =
to know what LED bulbs I get for my 4 small gauges - and I need the new =
stronger ones.&nbsp;&nbsp; I bought LEDs a while way back and they were =
no stronger than the incandescents !!! <br><br>So is there anyone who is =
into this subject as your help would be much appreciated.<br><br>I do =
hope that all is well with you and yours.&nbsp; We are not doing badly =
and so far the dreaded lurgy has not come near us - but taking super =
precautions including face =
masks.<br><br>Cheers<br>Barrie</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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