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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
From: <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:48:06 +0200
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Bob,

 

Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 =E2=80=93 2000,=
 I took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing bright. 

I think the car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road again in=
 2000.

15,000 miles for me is not really reliable, certainly not compared with mod=
ern cars. I once drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never had a pump fa=
ilure over 343,000 kilometers =3D 214,000 miles.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Robert's New iPad
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:28
Aan: h.duinhoven@planet.nl
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

 

Hans,

   Good on you for 50 years on the pump.  Into my 1972 GT, tomorrow, goes i=
ts third, as the second failed last week, at ten years and 25,000 miles.  I=
 have never been successful with replacing diaphragm and points. Well, succ=
essful in that the pumps did not leak, but they would not pump.  

    Installed in my GT is an auxiliary pump, wired to an unused rocker swit=
ch on the console. When the engine falters, moving the switch brings the au=
xiliary pump into service and engine runs well again.  

   Running on the auxiliary pump, we drove in the CT Triumph Club=E2=80=99s=
 British Reliability Run. 906 miles were added to my odometer.  All cars tr=
avelled reliably and successfully, except for one that had a Weber carb, wh=
en its throttle return spring broke. 

Bob

 



Dear listers,

 

Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.

The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year the c=
ar will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).

After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to star=
t the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.

We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed. 

As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who made a=
 temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.

 

Now my question is what is best for the final repair.

New set of points =E2=80=93 available via Moss Motors a.o.

Convert to electronic points? =E2=80=93 Is in backorder @ Moss now. 

Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine. 

 

Any experiences?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

=E2=80=9971 BGT NRG W/W no O/D

 



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=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob,<o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 =E2=80=
=93 2000, I took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing brigh=
t. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I think th=
e car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road again in 2000.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>15,000 miles for =
me is not really reliable, certainly not compared with modern cars. I once =
drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never had a pump failure over 343,00=
0 kilometers =3D 214,000 miles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DE=
N-GB>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.=
0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'mso-f=
areast-language:NL'>Van:</span></b><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:NL'>=
 Mgs &lt;mgs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>Namens </b>Robert's New iPad<br>=
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 24 september 2020 16:28<br><b>Aan:</b> h.duinho=
ven@planet.nl<br><b>CC:</b> mgs@autox.team.net<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mg=
s] Fuel pump failure<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hans,<span style=3D'mso-fare=
ast-language:NL'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbs=
p; &nbsp;Good on you for 50 years on the pump. &nbsp;Into my 1972 GT, tomor=
row, goes its third, as the second failed last week, at ten years and 25,00=
0 miles. &nbsp;I have never been successful with replacing diaphragm and po=
ints. Well, successful in that the pumps did not leak, but they would not p=
ump. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; Ins=
talled in my GT is an auxiliary pump, wired to an unused rocker switch on t=
he console. When the engine falters, moving the switch brings the auxiliary=
 pump into service and engine runs well again. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp;Running on the auxiliary pump, we dro=
ve in the CT Triumph Club=E2=80=99s British Reliability Run. 906 miles were=
 added to my odometer. &nbsp;All cars travelled reliably and successfully, =
except for one that had a Weber carb, when its throttle return spring broke=
=2E&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:12 AM, &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bott=
om:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dear listers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Two =
days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.</span><o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>The GT recently had been MOT=
 tested (the very final one, as next year the car will be 50 years old and =
the MOT test is compulsory anymore).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span lang=3DEN-GB>After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some =
drinks, I tried to start the GT again, but the starter cranked without succ=
ess.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>We quickl=
y found, that the original SU pump failed. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>As I had no spare pump with me, I had to ca=
ll the road services, who made a temp fix by adding an extra pump in series=
=2E</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Now my question i=
s what is best for the final repair.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span lang=3DEN-GB>New set of points =E2=80=93 available via Moss Motor=
s a.o.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Convert=
 to electronic points? =E2=80=93 Is in backorder @ Moss now. </span><o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Replace the diaphragm as we=
ll? The diaphragm still looks fine. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB>Any experiences?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span l=
ang=3DEN-GB>Thanks in advance.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN=
-GB>Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp=
;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>=E2=80=9971 =
BGT NRG W/W no O/D</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DE=
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