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Re: Early +4 Steering box

To: "Greg Solow" <gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>,
Subject: Re: Early +4 Steering box
From: "Mike Dixon" <mike.dixon@virgin.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:14:17 +0100
I have been using EP 140 in my box - it was what was recommended in the
drivers manual and I found that the EP90 was weeping out. Changed to 140 -
no leaks

Mike Dixon
71 4/4
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Solow <gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>
To: L.D. McLaughlin, Jr. <ldmcjr@zebra.net>; Morgan Mailing List
<morgans@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: Early +4 Steering box


> Oil is added to the steering box through a hole that is about 1 foot up
the
> tube from the box itself.  The hole is sealed with a rubber plug.  Pry it
> out carefully so as not to teaar it and add 90 ep gear oil until the tube
is
> full up to the hole.  recheck it again after a day or two  or after a
drive.
> The oil will run down into the box if the level was low.  You may add
> Molybdenum disulfide extreme pressure additives with benificial effect to
> the longevity and to slightly reduce the required steering effort.
> Lubeguard also makes a very good "friction modifier" additive that we use
at
> the Engine Room  to reduce the steering effort.  The description above is
> correct for a +4.
>     For a +8 the box is filled through a filler plug on the top of the
box.
> There are on the top cover of the box 3 fixing bolts, 1 filler plug, and 1
> adjustment screw with a locking nut around it.  The adjustment screw is
used
> to initially adjust the play and fit between the worm and the peg that is
> attached to the "sector shaft" which comes down through the bottom of the
> box and has the pittman arm on it. A box needs work when it 1. leaks oil
out
> the seal on the bottom, 2. when the play at the steering wheel exceeds
about
> 3/4 of an inch after the box has been adjusted, 3. when there is any end
> float or endwise movement of the inner steering column within the steering
> column housing, 4. whenever there is any "lumpiness" or undue stiffness in
> the steering which cannot be attributed to stiff kingpins, bad tie rod
ends
> or an out of adjustment steering box.
>
> Regards, Greg Solow
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: L.D. McLaughlin, Jr. <ldmcjr@zebra.net>
> To: Morgan Mailing List <morgans@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Early +4 Steering box
>
>
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Sorry to show my ignorance, but how can you tell when you need to
replace
> a
> > steering box or fix it at all? ... And how and where do you lubricate
it?
> > I've looked at it on mine ('71 Plus 8) and have no idea -
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --
> > http://www.gcnd.net/morganville
> >
> > ldmcjr@zebra.net
> >
> >
> > > The pin is very hard and I doubt that any k ind of a "wallop" that you
> can
> > > give it would havea any benificial effect.  New pegs are available and
> it is
> > > possible to press out the old peg and press in a new one.  The worms
> also
> > > wear over time and so do the sector shafts and the bush for it in the
> body
> > > of the sterring box.  We sometimes have to bjore out the body of the
box
> and
> > > istall a 2'nd bushing where the sector shaft originally ran directly
on
> the
> > > cast body of the box.  This is quite usual when the box has been run
> low on
> > > oil for any length of time.
> > >
Regards,
> > > Greg Solow
> > >
> > > The Engine Room
> > >
> > > Santa Cruz, Ca. --- Original Message -----
> > > From: <TrmpetDave@aol.com>
> > > To: <ecummins@bellsouth.net>; <morgans@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 10:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Early +4 Steering box
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 10/23/99 8:09:15 AM, ecummins@bellsouth.net
writes:
> > >>
> > >> <<I need some expert opinions on the early +4 seering box , 1959
> > > specifically.
> > >>
> > >> I am contemplating rebuilding all or part of it.
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >> I read somewhere, years ago, possible in Miscellany, that when the
> > > steering
> > >> becomes loose, taking out the peg, and giving it an almighty wallop
on
> its
> > >> point with a large hammer would correct the situation, by widening
the
> > > peg.
> > >> Has any one else heard of this, or tried it? When the steering on my
> '71
> > > +8
> > >> loosened, I got a Gemma box, which works ok, except that it needs a
> > > hydraulic
> > >> steering stabilizer to deaden the shimmy-I use one designed for a VW
> van.
> > > I
> > >> still have the original box, however and one of these days may try
the
> > > hammer
> > >> trick. Dave Collins, San Diego
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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