Subject:
Re: US Gasoline Pricing
Date:
Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:13:40 -0400
From:
Ed Herman <edherman@concentric.net>
To:
Manfred Brown <m-brown@dircon.co.uk>
References:
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I worked as an environmental scientist in the 60's, when we were told
that the
population of the earth would double, and the earth couldn't support
that many
people. Then in the 70' we were told by the same group that fossil
fuel would
run out in twenty years. In the 80's we were told by the same group
that the
world would end in ten years because of global worming.
The population has doubled twice in that last 40 years. And, we now
have more
oil reserves in Alaska alone then we had in the 70's. And, yes the
world is
going to end. But, we just don't know when. Paying more taxes will
not stop
the end.
So tell me why I should believe any popular assumptions about the
environment.
They have been proven consistently wrong over the last 40 years. I have
never
met more dishonest people then those how believe they know what right
for me and
the environment. And, tell me again why I should give any government
my money.
Ed.
Manfred Brown wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> I sent these out for fun but am prepared to enter the debate
seriously.
>
> Most people see the low gasoline prices in the USA, a quarter of the
price
> in the UK, and laugh at some people in the wealthiest nation in the
world
> bitch about how high the prices are. Personally I agree with high
taxes on
> gasoline for environmental reasons with the perhaps naïve assumption
that
> his will mean lower taxes elsewhere. I drive a +8 and am willing to
pay for
> the pleasure but use a more fuel efficient car for shopping, etc..
Global
> warming and diminishing fossil fuel reserves are realities of the
world in
> which we live and to bury ones head in the ground is sheer folly - and
I
> work in the oil industry!
>
> With respect,
>
> Manfred.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-morgans@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-morgans@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Vandergraaf, Chuck
> Sent: 8 April 2000 17:33
> To: 'Manfred Brown'
> Cc: 'Morgan List'
> Subject: RE: US Gasoline Pricing
>
> Manfred,
>
> Yeah, I've seen these figures before but other than being cute, they
miss
> the point, IMHO. Most of the items that are mentioned can potentially
be
> poured down somebody's throat and need to be of high quality. Others
(brake
> fluid, for example) are also of high quality but are used sparingly. I
would
> imagine that ink for ink jet printers ranks up there as well. When I
drove
> from Calgary to Pinawa a couple of years ago in my Toyota MR2, I
averaged
> 100 kph over the ~1450 km distance. I was using ~7.3 litres per 100
km (39
> mpg). I could not possibly consume any of the potable fluids
mentioned at
> that rate, not sustained over 14 hours, anyway. White Out is probably
an
> endangered species. As for Evian, there are alternatives "L'eau du
faucet"
> is good enough for me."
>
> I'm not saying that gasoline prices are too high. Gas prices are just
very
> visible and gas is bought often enough to remind the buyer.
Considering the
> wide range in prices in the world, it's no wonder we think we're being
> fleeced! Governments are not likely to step in and government
officials
> must be rubbing their collective hands with glee: every increase
results on
> more of our hard-earned money making a one-way trip to their coffers.
>
> Chuck Vandergraaf
>
> ----------
> From: Manfred Brown[SMTP:m-brown@dircon.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday April 08, 2000 5:01 AM
> To: 'Morgan List'
> Subject: US Gasoline Pricing
>
> Below is something I was sent from the US. Puts the price of
> gasoline into
> perspective.
> Manfred
> 1987 +8
>
> Gas Out
> -------
>
> More thoughts on the proposed "Gas-out" April 7-9. Here are a
few
> things
> that the magazine Autoweek has brought to the public's
attention.
> And
> thanks to subscriber Christine for passing it along to us!
>
> .... This is what it costs to buy a gallon of.....
>
> Diet Snapple - 16oz for $1.29 = $10.32 a gallon
>
> Lipton Iced Tea - 16 oz for $1.19 = $9.52 a gallon
>
> Gatorade - 20 oz for $1.59 = $10.17 a gallon
>
> Ocean Spray - 16 oz for $1.25 = $10.00 a gallon
>
> Evian water - 9 oz for $1.49 = $21.19 a gallon. $21.19 FOR
WATER!!
> Maybe
> that's the reason "Evian" spelled backward is "Naive" ...
>
> STP brake fluid - 12 oz for $3.15 = $33.60 a gallon
>
> Scope - 1.5 oz for $0.99 = $84.84 a gallon
>
> Vick's Nyquil - 6 oz for $8.35 = $178.13 a gallon (Of course,
you
> are paying
> for all that alcohol, too).
>
> But here's the real kicker!!
> White Out - 0.7 oz for $1.39 = $254.17 a gallon (i.e Tipex in
the
> UK)
>
> So next time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run
on
> White
> Out!!!
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