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Re: Engine and Transmission

To: Larry Cogan <woodrat@spacey.net>
Subject: Re: Engine and Transmission
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:15:03 -0700
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
References: <LAW-F190hgeO4WPiOvF000080b7@hotmail.com><39F2E894.BB9DF881@digitex.net> <v04210100b6189b95241f@[192.168.1.100]><00d901c03c35$20a82e80$2f3dd0ce@ibmcustomer>
Yawn.....
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
-Drew


Larry Cogan wrote:

> Robert.....what you said!!!
>
> I really dont want to get a serious pi****g contest going, BUT....  It
> has always seemed to me that the reason we want to buy a Bugeye, or
> any other classic from a particular time period is, to as much as
> possible, recreate the vintage driving experience and ambiance of that
> period, with that vehicle.  I have a few cars representing classic
> eras.  To most collectors its all about having that unique driving
> experience, which is enhanced by touring the car as it was, when it
> was new.  If you transplant a years newer engine, tranny, and a never
> ending list of ancillaries, you are no longer able to have that
> experience....nor will anyone else who happens to subsequently acquire
> the piece of "automotive exotica" you have created.  None of my cars
> are show pieces, but if you want an accurate idea of what it was like
> to drive a 1947 MG TC, come on down.  If you want to experience a
> Bugeye with a 948 engine, a smooth case tranny with all the inherent
> limitations that combo provides, come on down.  These and so many
> others are unique vehicles in their own right, and deserve to be
> passed on, intact, to another generation.   To get really
> philosophical, we don't really own these cars, we are merely fortunate
> keepers of them, temporarily, and therefore we should drive and
> maintain them as stewards for the next guys (or gals).  Of course
> these cars have shortcomings compared to the Toyota in the next
> lane....accept that and enjoy the car for its quirks.  It's why you
> wanted it to begin with, right?   There are kit cars galore......"get
> you one of 'em" and create to your hearts content.  Or better yet,
> save one from the crusher and build it as it pleases you.  Just dont
> "improve" an existing example.
>
> Having had my rant, I do recognize that this is still America, and
> they were only cars, afterall.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Weeks <robert@woozy.com>
> To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>; ryan marro
> <ryan_marro@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Engine and Transmission
>
> > Arghhh...
> >
> > He could just go buy a Miata or a Z3 or a Corvette instead of
> > chopping up yet another Bugeye. I still don't understand why anyone
> > would want to do this to a classic car.
> >
> > I hope by the time I have the funds to buy a Bugyeye that there will
> > still be some around that haven't been butchered.
> >
> > That's my rant for the day,
> >
> > Robert Weeks
> > 1969 MG Midget
> > http://www.woozy.com/midget
> >
> >
> > At 8:16 AM -0500 10/22/00, Brad Fornal wrote:
> > >You will lose the nimbleness and turning ability of the car if you
> do that.
> > >However it will go like stink from stop light to stop light. IMHO,
> > >the only way
> > >to go and not wreck the engine weight to suspension ratio is to use
> a rotary
> > >engine and 5 speed in the car. Use a '79-'85 12a and a '79 5 speed.
> The '79 5
> > >speed is shorter than it's other counterparts of later manufacture
> > >and when you
> > >shorten the shifter tube on top of the tranny (you do this to bring
> > >the shifter
> > >up in the stock position so it isn't obvious what you have done)
> you don't
> > >suffer from adverse affects, like the tranny wanting to hop out of
> > >1st and 4th.
> > >The installation is pretty simple, but if you live in a small town
> a major
> > >problem is finding a shop willing to help build you exhaust system.
> You will
> > >need to get a pumpkin out of another housing and get it welded for
> a
> > >spool type
> > >rear end also. The '73 still has my fingerprints imbedded in the
> top of the
> > >windscreen frame on the passenger side from spinning in circles
> trying to take
> > >off in a straight line <G> Even at speed this can be a problem
> because a quick
> > >shift and a heavy foot will send your car on a end swapping
> attempt.
> > >The guy who
> > >ended up with the car took it to OK, the laws an inspection are not
> > >as tough as
> > >here in Texas (I guess mufflers are optional equipment), and had
> the thing at
> > >well over 100 mph. Says he lost his ball cap somewhere along the
> way
> > >but at that
> > >speed he was to damn scared to look back for it.................
> > >p.s. I would not recommend that you add a Holley and a racing
> intake with the
> > >stock 2 can muffler system unless you are very adept at jetting
> > >carburetors. The
> > >'73 had a new Pep Boys rear muffler on it and Dave was in his
> garage tweaking
> > >the engine. I am assuming that the raw fuel was making through the
> > >first can and
> > >collecting in the second one, until it got hot that is. BOOM!! He
> > >though he was
> > >a victim of a drive by, it split that muffler at both seams, I
> > >couldn't talk him
> > >into taking it back under his warranty though............<G> Does
> > >Craftsman make
> > >mufflers!?!?
> > >
> > >
> > >ryan marro wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have a 1275/ribcase Bugeye.  Trans is bad.  Thinking of doing a
> Datsun 210
> > >> or similar conversion.  Thinking of also upgrading engine.  Is
> there
> > >> anything beefy that will easily fit into a Bugeye (Like a Chevy
> 350)? :-)
> > >>
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