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Re: The trouble with TAC / Call for consensus and sanity.

To: richard.fedorchak@gsfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: The trouble with TAC / Call for consensus and sanity.
From: brockctella@juno.com (Brock C Tella)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:58:15 PST
I couldn't have said it better.
On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:11:00 -0500 (EST) Rick Fedorchak
<richard.fedorchak@gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
>Regarding TAC,  Andy Walker makes the following observations:
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>>On the subject of TAC:        
>>      As with most things, I can see pros and cons to the TAC 
>system. ...........
>>      The TAC system, however, does have one major down point that 
>I feel that I
>>must express...............  It could even persuade a buyer to maybe 
>give
>a higher
>>price for a car that he or she feels has been fully authenticated by 
>the
>>"people in the know."  .............  But what about us folks stuck 
>here
>in the mid-section of the country?
>>                                         Andy Walker
>
>Seems though Andy's dissatisfaction with TAC centers around it's 
>apparent
>"non availability" to those in the center of the country.  However,
>backing up to  an earlier statement from his post brings up problems I
>perceive with the whole TAC business.
>
>1 ) " The self appointed ? "            
>         Just exactly who decides who the "people in the know" are ?  
>Are
>these folks self appointed, elected by Tiger enthusiasts local to 
>their
>area or club, or agreed upon nationally/internationally ??  Unless 
>it's the
>latter,  the whole TAC thing becomes meaningless.
>
>2)" $$$$ are most important ? "
>         Every time I see the word "TAC", it's always directly linked 
>to
>$$$$$ value for a vehicle. Consequently I believe that in spite of 
>what
>STOA would try and convince you of, $$$$/ investment is  the major 
>reason
>TAC was created.
>Goodbye hobby and fun.....hello bottom line $$ investment mentality.
>
>3) "Secrets ? "
>        What's the big secret ?  If in fact there exsists some 
>"standard" (
>and face it , there really isn't ) of what a real Tiger is, then why 
>does
>STOA  state that they have a few "informed" individuals who "know what 
>to
>look for"  and are solely privy  to that  information ?  Why  not make 
>this
>information available  to _ everyone_  in the Tiger community ?
>         Maybe it's just me, but historically, I don't think it fares 
>out
>well for the majority, when a minority decides  _for themselves_, that 
>they
>are the sole entity who decides what's correct, guards information as
>proprietary, and is solely responsible for execution of policy.   Hey, 
>I
>don't know about you folks, but I sure as hell didn't elect these 
>folks as
>guardians of the marque.  Did you ??  And furthermore, who's in charge 
>of
>keeping those
>"in the know "  honest ?  I mean,  how do I know that they aren't 
>allowing
>exceptions to their own rules amongst themselves ?  A wink, a 
>handshake,
>and another TAC certificate issued ?  Don't try and convince me it 
>couldn't
>happen.
>        
>4)" What's the reason ? "
>        If these STOA representatives are truly trying to provide a 
>public
>service to the marque, why are they charging $$$$  to do so ??
>
>5) " The Law argument ?"
>        That supporters of the TAC contend validity to their stance 
>via
>stating  " putting a drill to the rivets is against
> the law", I find laughable.  Unless of course you can prove to me 
>that you
>religiously, conscientiously and scrupulously ( sp ? ) adhere to _ 
>every_
>law on the books. ( including of course those relating to speed limits 
>).
>If you _don't_ , than maybe you'd better leave the legal thing 
>alone.....
>
>
>At this point you're probably saying " Rick, where in the _HELL_ ar 
>you
>going with all this...? "
>
>
>                I CONTEND........can we please inject some sanity into 
>this
>whole thing ?  
>
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>First;           Is this whole TAC thing really necessary ?
>
>Second;         If it is judged, BY THE MAJORITY OF TIGER OWNERS ( not 
>just
>one fragmented segment or club ), that something like the TAC is 
>necessary,
>can we then include everyone in on decisions, policy, and execution of
>policy ?  For example, lets get a consensus from everyone possible ( 
>CAT,
>STOA, TIGERS EAST,  any Brit Tiger Clubs ?, non club affiliated owners 
>) on
>what constitutes a real Tiger.  Anything less is wholly meaningless.
>
>Third;          In order to ensure that  this whole mess remains
>aboveboard, honest, and not selectively enforced, the facts need to be 
>part
>of the "public record".  No secrets please.  Many of you contend that
>information of the type Norm compiles is important and eminantly 
>worthy of
>publishing and distribution, why would other portions be deemed 
>necessary
>to keep "secret" ?
>
>The current STOA regime, and TAC program appears to me to be too self
>serving, and projects the attitude " We decide the issues, we'll 
>create the
>rules", and basically..............." we'll decide what's good for 
>you. "
>Furthermore , " we'll keep the facts a secret, and we'll grace your 
>vehicle
>with our blessing,  _OR NOT_ and reserve the right not to tell you why 
>! "
>
>Imagine, for a moment,  trying to register your car with a state motor
>vehicles agency.  You get there and they declare " We won't give you a
>license plate and registration card" ........ "and we won't tell you 
>why ,
>either."
>
>I say, baloney.
>
>
>                                                            Rick 
>Fedorchak
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