Well all, I am happy to say that I figured out the problem after many
hours and a disasembly of my fuse wiring that I had put together last
year to allow for the larger fuse block.
It looked as though somehow everything was getting power no matter what
I did, and on top of that, it was also grounding out before the fuse
block, but just slightly, otherwise I would have had a fire.
Upon investigation, I found that the ammeter connections (which have
power at all times) somehow were pulled out of the connection it had
(poor one to begin with)just enough so that one or two strands were
grounding. Also, another set of wires that had power with the key on,
were barely touching the ground, so that explains the lack of power
completely with the key on. Not quite sure how the wiring was
originally, but no fuses were blown this whole time, so I am not sure
what good they are really doing. I am just glad the Tiger will start up
now.
So, the real question is how did this happen? My best explaination is
that the yahoo who tried to start the car threw himself in and put his
foot down to the left of the clutch or just had his foot really crooked
on the clutch, which pulled pretty good on the main wiring harness,
which pulled the wires. They we just not touching ground yet until after
I drove it home. That is my guess, and I am sticking to it. I did make
sure that the rest of the wires down there were all secure and connected
well so this is less likely to happen again.
Thanks to everyone who offered help, and I have just one final question.
During my search, I noted what I think was called the ignition warning
light. The connection on this was absolutly horrid, and confusing. That
was where I looked first for this under the dash, but disconnecting it
did nothing. The connection basically had two wires to it, with two
resistors soldered on, and the wires crossed. Is this a correct setup? I
assume that if it is wrong, I would not know, but if it was correct then
I would not know since my alternator is working fine. So for now it is
out of the car, but I will put it back if I know the correct and cleaner
way to do so.
Thanks again!!
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tigers@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-tigers@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Tom Witt
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:20 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: No Start!!! Battery Draw??? Help??
Scott,
>>>I traced it to one of the two brown wires on the solenoid, which is
>>>also
wired to the ignition switch, but should not be pulling volts, since the
wire is dangling from the dash.<<< If I understand you correctly(?):
Actually one of those brown wires from the solenoid to the Ign. switch
should have 12 volts all the time. This is where the 12 volts comes from
when the key is turned on to send it to the ignition, fuel pump etc..
Showing volts and drawing current are two different things. I would
check the battery connections, the brown wire and connector under the
dash and then all the white wires and connectors, the white/red wire to
the solenoid and the grounding of the solenoid itself. However, with
the twisted switch, no starting and no fuel pump I would put my money on
the brown wire/connector being the problem. Try jumping a wire from the
battery side of the larger solenoid connection to where the brown wire
connects at the ignition switch and see if it works. If so, try
replacing the brown wire connector and re-hook it up. I that doesn't
work put the proper connectors on your jumper wire (wire should be the
correct
gauge) and use that.
Though not your specific problem might I add that with the Tiger wiring
one needs to be very careful. As an example in sorting out my dash
lights (which did work before rewiring) I found that certain lights
would not come on AND I was getting 12 volts at the ground! Because of
the daisy chain ground I failed to notice that though my gauges
"appeared" to be grounded, in fact some of them were out of the loop
(which was my doing). And the 12 volts on ground? Well....., the 12
volts comes into the bulb and then goes out the bulb (into the black
wire) looking for, but not finding the ground. Hence the segment of
black ground wire (at this time not actually grounded) was showing 12
volts. Hours later I sorted it out and shamefully admitted I was a
victim of a simple, but confounding problem that I smuggly thought I
knew better than to be caught by. Tom Witt B9470101
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