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Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?

To: "phastphill@aol.com" <phastphill@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 22:33:30 -0400
Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Aucra exhausts.... (The ones that sound like farts).   Not many engines
sounds bad to me but Acuras and Harleys are wel

On Sunday, April 7, 2013, Owain Lloyd wrote:

> Oh god I know!  They sound even worse than pointless 'emergency' sirens.
>  Definitely one of my top 'angry hates' :) what do people see (or should I
> say hear) in that awful racket?
>
> I think all loud noises should be judged by the benchmark of 'would you
> rather your toddler kept sleeping or should they be woken up to experience
> said sound?'  If its not worth being interrupted from an interesting
> conversation from (and a small block ford usually is), I don't want to hear
> it!
>
> - angry Owain in noisy manhattan.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2013, wrote:
>
>> Good noise a v8...  bad noise another asshole on a harly with open
>> pipes.....my 650 single dr sounds way better than a harly and a gold star
>> is
>> even better
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: MWood24020 <MWood24020@aol.com>
>> To: tsmit <tsmit@shaw.ca>; CoolVT <CoolVT@aol.com>
>> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 4:31 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Chambered exhaust systems?
>>
>>
>> Of course, we also need to differentiate "good noise" from "bad noise"...
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/7/2013 1:25:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> tsmit@shaw.ca writes:
>>
>> True enough, but the LAT73/LAT74 headers and  exhaust, that these mufflers
>> were part of, were not really intended for stock  engines.
>>
>> My Tiger came to me with a five-bolt 289 with ported and  polished heads,
>> a
>> Holley 600 and F4B manifold, and a pretty lopey cam. 'Quiet'  was not
>> really in its repertoire, although sticking with a 2 inch exhaust  system
>> does
>> help keep the overall noise level down compared with 2 1/4 or 2  1/2 inch
>> pipe, at the expense of some performance at the high end.
>>
>> Theo
>>
>> On 4/7/2013 1:58 PM, _CoolVT@aol.com_ (mailto:CoolVT@aol.com)   wrote:
>>
>>
>> I can tell you that in using cheap old glass paks with a stock engine  and
>> the same mufflers with a hopped up 302....they are much, much louder  with
>> the 302.  I shouldn't think a stock engine would be that  difficult to
>> muffle.
>> Mark L
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/7/2013 3:37:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> _tsmit@shaw.ca_ (mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca)  writes:
>>
>> Mike,
>> Here's a picture of what I think are the Mitchell  mufflers - these are
>> what was on my Tiger when I got it.
>>
>> For  the rest of you that won't get the picture:
>>
>> The body is 24" long,  3x5" oval, 2" in and out. Contrary to what I
>> remembered, the hangers  attach 5" rearward from the front of the muffler
>> body - there is only  about 20 inches between where the hangers attach on
>> the chassis and  the rear axle tube.
>>
>> I do recall the front of these mufflers pretty  much touching the
>> rearward part of the underbody X frame, just behind  the little exhaust
>> pipe notch in the X. The sound of these mufflers  was pretty aggressive,
>> but it went well with the rest of the system  and engine.
>>
>> I would also be concerned with the amount of sound  suppression that's
>> possible in a small diameter muffler such as the  chambered ones in the
>> link below. It may be that with proper choice of  all the internal
>> volumes, they get noise cancellation at most of the  frequencies of
>> interest, but it seems to me that the overall result  would still be
>> pretty dependent on the rest of the package, i.e.  engine displacement,
>> cam, and the diameter of the rest of the  exhaust.
>>
>> Theo
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/2013 10:28 AM, _MWood24020@aol.com_ (mailto:MWood24020@aol.com)
>> wrote:
>> >  Thanks, Theo. I was looking around the 'net yesterday and saw  this:
>> > http://www.classicchambered.com/
>> >  Concern is that there would really be minimal muffling. Upside would
>>  be
>> > installation, particularly in terms of avoiding the "mufflers  hanging
>> low"
>> > issue/look we have with our cars.
>> >
>> > I also had another friend tell me he installed the new tech,  small
>> diameter
>> >   glasspacks on his Tiger with very good  results.
>> >
>> > I'm not a big fan of Flowmaster  mufflers. I've yet to have an install
>> where
>> >   there  wasn't some droning, regardless as to whether running an H or X
>> >  pipe.  They do sound good under throttle and are made very well,
>>  though!
>>
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>> of
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