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RE: history check

To: vinkg@fleishman.com, 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: history check
From: "Gene Holtzclaw" <motrv8d@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 15:31:33 +0000
I had to chime back in on this to add that in SC we are now by law under a 
"MILES EXEMPT" status on all vehicles 10 years old or older. I know that Ga 
also has this law. SO as I think it is said- "les caveat"? BUYER BEWARE!!


>From: "Vink, Graham" <vinkg@fleishman.com>
>Reply-To: "Vink, Graham" <vinkg@fleishman.com>
>To: 6pack@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: history check
>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:37:39 -0500
>
>Generally speaking, used car dealers would prefer NOT to know about 
>problems
>with their cars, so they can say with complete honesty that they weren't
>aware that the odometer was rolled back (or that the head was cracked,
>sawdust in the transmission, etc.).
>
>In Virginia, and I presume many other states, the seller (either private or
>a dealer) must either certify that the mileage on the odometer is accurate
>or say that it is unknown (in which case, that will be reflected on the new
>title).
>
>Right now, I don't believe there's a way for most dealers to run Carfax
>checks on the used cars they buy at auction, which is where they get most 
>of
>them. So the dealer didn't run a Carfax check before he bought it, he
>probably wouldn't want to run one before he sold it, in case it gave him 
>bad
>news.
>
>(Example: I'm a car dealer. I buy a car where the title shows 80k. I run a
>Carfax check and find out that the 80k is bogus and it's probably more like
>150k. Do I disclose that when I sell the car, sharply reducing its value? 
>If
>I don't disclose, of course, then I'm committing fraud. On balance, I'm
>probably better off NOT running Carfax and hoping for the best.)
>
>That said, I think this is changing. Dealers are victims of odometer fraud
>as much as anybody else, and I think the Carfax/Experian checks will become
>almost universal components of any transaction.
>
>However, I fully agree with Gene's comments that a thorough check by
>somebody who knows Triumphs is much more valuable than a Carfax report.
>
>Graham
>
>
>
>     Graham> ... and he'd bought the car from a dealer who certified the
>     Graham> mileage as accurate (and the dealer probably didn't know 
>unless
>     Graham> he ran his own Carfax check, since it didn't happen on his
>     Graham> watch, either).
>
>I can't imagine why a dealer would certify the mileage on a car not known 
>to
>it.  I assume a Carfax check for dealers is pretty cheap insurance against
>
>     * getting sued for something trivial by the person who buys the car 
>from
>       them
>
>     * getting fleeced by an unscrupulous seller
>
>especially for fairly valuable cars (dunno if a 928 qualifies as such
>anymore).
>
>Skip

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