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Fw: another steering question (i.e. Rack & Pinion)

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Subject: Fw: another steering question (i.e. Rack & Pinion)
From: "Richard Wright" <duntov1@attbi.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:03:57 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wright" <duntov1@attbi.com>
To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: another steering question (i.e. Rack & Pinion)


> I put a rack-n-pinion in my big Healey.
> I then discovered I lost the ackerman steering effect. It was designed
into
> the steering arms on the steering box and idler.
> Ackerman is designed into the steering to make the wheel on the inside of
> the turn to turn more than the outside one because of the smaller circle
it
> is following!
> I had to further mod the car to get it back! NO FUN GUYS!
> This is something left to the pros!
> Rich Wright
> Dallas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> To: <WisslerJon@aol.com>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: another steering question (i.e. Rack & Pinion)
>
>
> > I'm sure if it could be done it would have been done by one of the many
> > racers, in particular the Harvey brothers, who I have been told, heavily
> > modified their car.
> >
> > I don't think the design of the front frame allows this conversion. If
the
> > front end of a Mustang is welded to the frame, after the frame has been
> cut
> > of course, perhaps then it may work. Seems when all is said and done it
> will
> > cost nearly as much as a rebuilt front end, providing the conversion
> works.
> >
> > Lower BJs are very important because if they fail your suspension can
and
> > will seperate. I have seen this happen many times on cabs and limos.
> >
> > Let's face it you're going to have to dig deep into your pockets to get
> the
> > steering/suspension to work well (or safely) and if you live in a state
> that
> > requires a safety inspection, to pass inspection. I just bought 2 new
> lower
> > BJs and it set me back about 270 and that's with a 20% discount and no
tax
> > or shipping. I want them sitting on my shelf because when they're gone,
> > they're gone and one day I may need them. Same for all the steering
> > components which I bought over the years.
> >
> > Unfortunately some of the steering parts are NLA or so I've been told.
To
> > use a Roadster as an everyday car is expensive which is why I bought a
> > Miata. When I first restored my car in 1980 I didn't think twice about
> using
> > it as an everyday summer car but parts were way cheaper and most
> > importantly, available. Even in 79 when I bought all my parts BJs were
40
> > each which was quite expensive.
> >
> > FWIW, I have a 1971 JC Whitneys catalog and they were $5 each :(
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <WisslerJon@aol.com>
> > To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: another steering question (i.e. Rack & Pinion)
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated Thu, 21 Feb 2002  4:28:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > "Peter Long" <Peter.Long@ecologic.ca> writes:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone done a successful rack & pinion swap into a Roadster?
> > > >
> > > > If so, I'd love to hear about it.
> > > >
> > > > Pete Long
> > > >
> > > I was about to post the same question.  My 69 SRL undoubtedly needs
some
> > front end work.  However, I'm not astute enough to know what it REALLY
> > needs, or if I plan to go through the whole shebang, what should the top
> > priority.  The mechanic I often rely on, USA Performance in PDX,
suggested
> > that the stock Roadster steering is antiquated, has way too many moving
> > parts subject to failure, and would cost me a mint to completely
refresh.
> > I've already had the upper A arm bushing replaced.  He suggested that if
I
> > was going to spend upwards of a grand going through the whole thing, I
> would
> > be miles ahead by converting to a rack and pinion setup.  He thinks the
> Ford
> > Pinto/MustangII setup would go in without a whole lot of fussing around,
> > though he has not tried it before.  I'm reluctant to use my car as the
> > guinea pig, plus I'm not convinced that the original configuration can't
> > yield extremely satisfactory results.  Any thoughts from those of you
more
> > experienced than I?  If I go !
> > > stock, where is the most bang for the buck?  Steering gear,
ball-joints,
> > tie-rod ends????  Anybody out there already done a rack and pinion
> > conversion, and if so, are you happy with the results?
> > >
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