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Re: Red/ Black 6cyl Cars

To: "davidwjones" <davidwjones@cox.net>,
Subject: Re: Red/ Black 6cyl Cars
From: "Rich C" <richchrysler@quickclic.net>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 23:02:39 -0400
David,
I must totally agree with Peter Svilans reply regarding this colour scheme. 
There have been so many people over the years trying to justify their own 
tastes and desires for colours and features on these cars that over time 
history gradually gets rewritten.
Of course to each their own, it's your car, etc. etc. but the fact remains 
that if one car was produced specially for whatever purpose, and it's 
clearly not an available production thing of that time period, the car 
should be docked points in a Concours judging unless proof is shown that 
THAT particular car was the one with the anomoly.
Carrying things a step further, if a conversation takes place where mention 
is made that a car was in fact done at the factory in that colour scheme, 6 
other casual listeners will perpetuate that fact on to the poor bloke who 
didn't hear the entire story accurately. Then he goes ahead and orders his 
Moss kit in black with red piping, paints his BN4 Colorado red, and another 
car (whose owner thought he was accurate) is restored wrong.

Rich Chrysler

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "davidwjones" <davidwjones@cox.net>
To: "Peter Svilans" <peter.svilans@rogers.com>; <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Red/ Black 6cyl Cars


> Yes. Peter, It was ordered in house, ... --I did not try to pass it off as
> standard production run. -That is why I deliberately included the 
> destination
> info. The fact that the publicity department ordered one in that 
> combination,
> indicates to me that they thought the desirability of the color 
> combination
> was worth the trouble of building one. However, it was then also sold to 
> the
> general public, afterward.
>
> If it was good enough for DMHC to sell it, it's good enough for me, and 
> should
> be for anyone else. -That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
>
> Boy, I thought I was a hardass when it came to originality.
>
> David W. Jones
> '62 Mk II BT7 tricarb
> Cumberland, RI USA
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Peter Svilans
>  To: healeys@autox.team.net
>  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:31 PM
>  Subject: Red/ Black 6cyl Cars
>
>
>  Students of the marque enjoy finding exceptions to the run of the mill
>  production stuff, more than just about anything else.
>
>  This Heritage Certificate black interior was ordered IN HOUSE by BMC's 
> own
>  publicity department.
>
>  As this department's job was to sell cars, they could order anything they
>  wanted.  Maybe the photographer thought black seats would set off the
> model's
>  red dress better than red seats would, who knows.
>
>  Doesn't mean this is a license to now do anything the restorer wants,
> because
>  hey, publicity could have ordered anything.
>
>  Somewhere in the historical timeline, in 1956-7,  a group of factory 
> people
> in
>  suits and white lab coats got together, squinted at the samples, 
> discussed
> the
>  current  American interior schemes, and deliberately decided "No, we will
> not
>  carry on the black interiors from the 100 for the red cars for the new 6
>  cylinder model",  and stuck to this decision for nearly five years and
>  thousands of cars produced.
>
>  Lets encourage restorers to stick to the club's mandate and preserve the
>  marque as it actually looked when produced.
>
>  Peter




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